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Wen Trimming?


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Hey all, ghoti here.

I recently stumbled onto some pages and read something about wen trimming. It, of course, was mostly an instructional and didn't really say when you would do a wen trimming.

I figured that maybe overgrowth of the wen and it becoming too big (covering the eyes, etc.) would be an obvious time to trim the wen, but wen else (excuse the lame pun, lol) should the wen be trimmed?

Do people trim wens for aesthetics, or should it only be done in a case of an emergency?

Just asked out of curiosity (and in case I get orandas rather than single-tails and may need to know when to trim)

Thanks in advance:)

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personally, since a lot of fish are with poor sight or blind and manage quite well without sight, i would most likely never wen trim.

some will wen trim if the wen begins to grow over the eyes. some may wen trim if the fish is to be shown.

i will only ever wen trim if there is a wen ulcer threatening the life of a fish. and then it will be more like shaving the entire afro hairdo off :)

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I won't wen trim unless it is impeding gill function or I need to remove an ulcer. It's a procedure that may seem necessary for some for show purposes, but for me it isn't worth the risks involved in fish surgery to take care of something non-life-threatening.

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Just my opinion, not trying to judge anyone, but I wouldn't feel comfortable putting a pet through a traumatic procedure for purely aesthetic purposes such as showing. I'm sure those who show goldfish are experienced in the process but it seems risky and a bit unethical to put a fish through that unless it's for medical or life quality reasons. I agree with Helen that many fish do fine with poor sight or even when blind. Personally if I were worried I'd take some pics of the fish in question, post a thread here, and gather some opinions from fellow goldfish keepers on what would be best for the fish. If you do get orandas I wouldn't worry too much; most fish don't require any wen trimming and if yours did I'm sure members on here who are experienced in it would be happy to help you. :)

I hope I never have to wen trim! I'd be a nervous wreck. :undecided:

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I have a slightly different take on this. Goldfish are meant to see. Excessive wen growth that covers the eyes is a result of humans breeding for showier headgrowth and is not a natural genetic mutation. Because of this, I think it is fine for a person skilled in this procedure to remove excess wen from the eyes in order to restore the fishes' sight.

I have done this surgery once and had good results. The problem is that it can grow back.

Once again, I would recommend having a trained professional do it.

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I would only trim if the wen became to heavy or if covering the eyes caused the fish to bottom sit (which it can sometimes). depends on the fish and the situation! It would also depend on the person who owns the fish. I would be okay performing this procedure with assistance of a "nurse" (since I would be the doctor. The nurse would be my bf :rofl) but there is an aquatics vet at the aquarium near me that routinely does surgery on large koi so I could always consult there for help. :)

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I would only trim if the wen became to heavy or if covering the eyes caused the fish to bottom sit (which it can sometimes). depends on the fish and the situation! It would also depend on the person who owns the fish. I would be okay performing this procedure with assistance of a "nurse" (since I would be the doctor. The nurse would be my bf :rofl) but there is an aquatics vet at the aquarium near me that routinely does surgery on large koi so I could always consult there for help. :)

My sister was my nurse :rofl

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I think it helps a lot to go over setting everything up and reviewing the procedure with your nurse just like a real doctor would. When you know what you're doing you stay much calmer and things tend to go more smoothly. Wen trimming is a procedure that is far easier than tumor removal or more invasive surgeries. Even for something like euthanasia going over and preparing for it ensures it will be as stress free and painless as possible for the fish. Preparedness both physically and mentally are very important.

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Preparedness both physically and mentally are very important.

^ this...

i found that with all the procedures i did, role play before anything else is very important. i found that if i role played everything through prior to the procedure, it would help me to bring things to the table that i had forgotten.

role play helped me to calm my nerves because it offered the opportunity to think out potential risks and what i would do should it occur. sometimes i would do this 2 or 3 times before heading into the first steps of sedation.

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