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What is coming out of my daughters fishes head!


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My daughters goldfish Leonardo has been extremely healthy. Until last week we notice two spots on it's forehead. It wasn't ich as I have seen that before. I decided to watch it. Today she called me down and one of the spots had grown what almost looked like a stringy piece of white film out of it (It looked like white stringy poo but coming out of the wrong place!) I put it in a bath of Paraguard (Seachem) and it fell off but the spots remain which tells me the (whatever it is PARASITE???) is still lingering. Any suggestions as to what should be done?

Parameters

PH 8.0

Nitrate 10 ppm

Nitrite 0

Ammonia 0

GH & KH - Hard Water

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I'm sorry that your daughter's fish isn't feeling well. Go ahead and thoroughly answer all of these questions, and then we'll try to see what's going on. Having a good idea of the fish's entire setup, will give us many clues on how to effectively treat whatever is wrong.

Please copy & paste fill the following form and fill it out to the best of your ability when requesting help for Goldfish Problems:

  • Test Results for the Following:
    • * Ammonia Level(Tank)
    • * Nitrite Level(Tank)
    • * Nitrate level(Tank)
    • * Ammonia Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrite Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrate level(Tap)
    • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    • Other Required Info:
      • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?
      • * Water temperature?
      • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?
      • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
      • * How often do you change the water and how much?
  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size?
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often?
  • * Any new fish added to the tank?
  • * Any medications added to the tank?
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?
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  • Test Results for the Following:

    • * Ammonia Level(Tank) 0
    • * Nitrite Level(Tank)0
    • * Nitrate level(Tank)10ppm
    • * Ammonia Level(Tap).5
    • * Nitrite Level(Tap)0
    • * Nitrate level(Tap)0
    • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 8.0 KH and GH I am unsure of but we have harder water.
    • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 8.2 KH and GH I am unsure of
    • Other Required Info:

      • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API
      • * Water temperature? 68
      • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 55 gallons 6 months
      • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? Aquatop rated for 125 gph
      • * How often do you change the water and how much? 1x per week about 1/3 of the water

  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? We changed about 1/3 of the water 5 days ago
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size? 5 gold fish ranging from 3-4 inches
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Prime water conditioner ,Matrix and ChemiPure in Canister filter
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often? 1x per day mixture of flake, sinking pellet and peas 1x a week
  • * Any new fish added to the tank? no
  • * Any medications added to the tank? no
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. - Just used Seachem Paraguard in a dip in a bucket for an hour.
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? - Only the growth
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? The fish is swimming and eating fine.
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The wen is the growth on their head that certain types of goldfish get--ranchu, oranda, and lionheads for example. When the wen grows it often appears as a white spot.

I've only recently gotten a fish with a wen and I haven't seen this in real life but I've seen many pics. We should wait for someone else to confirm this but that is my best guess. :)

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Hi! I agree with Lisa that it is probably just wen growth. Both my blue Oranda and my Ranchu get those same white pimples and sometimes the stringy things that hang off. They are harmless. I would only be concerned with holes that seem to be getting larger, reddening or ulcerative.

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* What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? Aquatop rated for 125 gph

Do you mean the filter is rated for a 125 gallon tank?

I was wondering about this too? Is it the CF400 UV canister?

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Yes it is the CF400 UV canister filter. I am glad to hear this is probably harmless!

These white spots/patches will appear a lot during the fall/winter months. Just keep watch, but they are almost always harmless. :)

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Sorry it is rated for 75-125 gallon tanks..... 370 gph

It's OK. :)

I think it's quite a fine filter. However, given that you have 5 fish in the tank, which by the time they are adults (soon, if not already), you are going to be quite overstocked, and rising nitrates may be a big problem, in addition to a lot of waste (poop) being produced. I would recommend getting an HOB to supplement your current filtration, with it dedicated more to mechanical filtration.

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welcome! wen growth will also show more on a darker fish than it would on a fish with a white wen :)

the wen is the bubbly bit on it's head that looks like an outside brain :teehee they can sometimes grow uneven and remain awkward for weeks or months till the next growth spurt.. but they are adorably ugly :wub:

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I think what you are describing is similar to what my Oranda had. White tufts growing out into strands. I tried to take photos of my fish and it freaked the fish out and the tufts fell off. They grew back again though. I treated him by salting the tank to 0.1% and it cleared it up.

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