alvintran1998 156 Posted October 21, 2013 I asked Alvin to test tap params just to be sure some hasn't changed. He reported everything is 0 except nitrite is 5ppm (is that correct Alvin?) Tap ph was 7.2 5 ppm nitrite is quite high. Would you mind just double checking that one just to be sure? That is a pretty significant issue if tap is truly 5 ppm nitrite. Do you have salt you can add to the tank? Salting will help ward off nitrite toxicity. I have to go to bed now but I'm sure others will jump in if they have suggestions. I'll check back in tomorrow . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I meant 5ppm nitrate, the third step in nitrogen cycle. I get those 2 mixed up some times. And yes, I do have aquarium salt. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helen 8,511 Posted October 21, 2013 my only recommendation is to get rid of the Algaefix and do large water changes to totally remove it. I personally experienced near death results with my community of goldfish whilst using that product and the fish bounced back relatively quickly after I had totally removed this product from the tanks. perhaps your previous community of freshwater fish were used to the product and these ones aren't. do you have access to a microscope?. it's not that I do not trust Cynthia's methods of eradicating flukes and tapeworms, but depending on how long they underwent treatment in her care, it is also possible that larvae has hatched and reinfestation has occurred. please do contact Cynthia if you suspect this may be the case.. or unless symptoms only occurred whilst you commenced treatment with Algaefix. I have algae free tanks.. nothing wrong with a bit of dedicated elbow work during a water change to keep them that way. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alvintran1998 156 Posted October 21, 2013 my only recommendation is to get rid of the Algaefix and do large water changes to totally remove it. I personally experienced near death results with my community of goldfish whilst using that product and the fish bounced back relatively quickly after I had totally removed this product from the tanks. perhaps your previous community of freshwater fish were used to the product and these ones aren't. do you have access to a microscope?. it's not that I do not trust Cynthia's methods of eradicating flukes and tapeworms, but depending on how long they underwent treatment in her care, it is also possible that larvae has hatched and reinfestation has occurred. please do contact Cynthia if you suspect this may be the case.. or unless symptoms only occurred whilst you commenced treatment with Algaefix. I have algae free tanks.. nothing wrong with a bit of dedicated elbow work during a water change to keep them that way. Yup, definitely tossing out the bottle of Algaefix. I've actually sent them a strongly worded email regarding my issue, but I doubt they're going to do anything about it except try to blame it on some other things. But it's worth a try I guess. Yup, the reaction started right after I dosed the Algaefix, the new fish have been in the tank for 2 days before then so I don't think that they're the cause. And after the dosing of Algae fix, I've done a 50% water change, and two 90%. If that doesn't get rid of the algaefix in the water, I don't know what will. And nope, I do not have microscopes, my mom thinks I'm crazy that I have a weight scale for my fish, I don't know what she'll say when I bring home a microscope and say "it's part of my goldfish care". Lol. Let's hope for the best I guess. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helen 8,511 Posted October 21, 2013 continue to water change... as frequently as possible to restore the health of your fish.. I would be doing two 60% wc's daily for the next few days. the company won't listen to you.. we've tried in the past. we've even tried to persuade them to put a health risk mention on their label for fish, but nothing came from it. since the product can be used in planted tanks where fish or other animals are not present, they can market it as they wish. I guess then it's up to the retailers to want to educate their customers with regards to potential health risks to their live stock, but unfortunately, that also means loss in sales which is always the sticking point. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DieselPlower 2,123 Posted October 21, 2013 I want to point out that this prodoct has hundreds of positive reviews online. I have also used it successfully. It is very important to follow the instructions carefully. Is it possible you used too much? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alvintran1998 156 Posted October 21, 2013 I want to point out that this prodoct has hundreds of positive reviews online. I have also used it successfully. It is very important to follow the instructions carefully. Is it possible you used too much?I don't think so. I could have missed a few drops here and there but I did count out the drops from the instructions. Early morning update: no casualty overnight, which I to be honest was not expecting. And more good news is that at least a few are actually swimming around and doesn't breath as heavily. But there's still some that are lethargic and heavy breathing. And my big oranda, oh oranda, I don't think how she's going to hold up since she's not really swimming now, just mostly floating and bottom sitting. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helen 8,511 Posted October 21, 2013 is it possible for you to add aeration to the tank during this time? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Narny105 1,992 Posted October 21, 2013 keep up with the water changes today. Did you add any salt? There is a chance you did overdose, particularly if you didn't take into account the space taken up by decor in the tank. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites