Regular Member Midnight112x Posted September 4, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 4, 2013 I didn't check water parameters again. I would assume they are the same. Nitrate levels never rise that fast in my tank but I can certainly test for the sake of making sure. I didn't feed them today but when I turned the light on for a second they acted as if I was going to feed them. There was some stirring in their behavior which is a good sign at least 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member shellbell4ever Posted September 4, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted September 4, 2013 good to see they're hungry lets hope with stable water conditions and added air flow they will recover in time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midnight112x Posted September 4, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 4, 2013 Would you still feed them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member dnalex Posted September 4, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted September 4, 2013 Yes, definitely feed them, and sparingly. I understand that you don't want to handle the fish to examine the gills. There are couple of other things that we could try to check, and that's looking at poop, and to feel the belly. Hang in there! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midnight112x Posted September 4, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 4, 2013 Yes thank you. I just feel i am too spastic to touch them and it might stress them more than help. He is big enough where I can see inside his gills a little bit. He is breathing heavy... At the same time I don't really know where the spot I should be looking is. His labored breathing appears to be getting shallower. As if its getting better. He is not bottom sitting either. He is hovering lower level of the tank. The pearl scale is just bottom sitting still. Not breathing heavy. Hopefully the salt works and we can move on from this Ps. His gills look pink 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midnight112x Posted September 5, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 5, 2013 Would treating with prazi pro be a bad idea? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member fantailfan1 Posted September 5, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted September 5, 2013 How long has it been since you treated with PraziPro? I certainly don't think it would hurt if it hasn't been done in the past 3-6 months or so. Did you say you had MetroMeds available if we should suspect a secondary bacterial infection once the PraziPro is started? Not saying we will need it, just good to have on hand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midnight112x Posted September 5, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 5, 2013 I don't remember the last time they got prazi but it was def longer than 6 months and close to a year. Metro meds are on hand also. I'm going to check on them this morning to see any progress 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midnight112x Posted September 5, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 5, 2013 Both are a little more active today. The pearl is not bottom sitting she was hovering mid tank near a fake plant. The ranchu is slowly swimming around but still breathing heavily Both are a little more active today. The pearl is not bottom sitting she was hovering mid tank near a fake plant. The ranchu is slowly swimming around but still breathing heavily 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member shellbell4ever Posted September 5, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted September 5, 2013 That sounds like they're starting to feel better keep an eye on your water and we'll get through this soon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporter Helen Posted September 5, 2013 Supporter Share Posted September 5, 2013 if you noticed darting, I would go ahead and treat with prazi.. it's very mild and we often use it hand in hand with salting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midnight112x Posted September 5, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 5, 2013 I put the prazi pro in this morning. I also have something in a bottle called metro +. The bottle is the same company that makes prazi pro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member fantailfan1 Posted September 5, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted September 5, 2013 Don't use the MMs or Metro +. Just give us daily, or more often if you'd like, updates on how they are doing--behavior, eating, etc and we will go from there. Do you know where to find our typical Prazi treatment schedule? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Avepico Posted September 5, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted September 5, 2013 Here is a link to Prazi scheduling. http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/index.php?/topic/105076-schedules-for-the-treatment-of-flukes-etc-using-praziquantel/ I would let a mod chime in on if there is a preferred duration, but this is a start. I do the 5 day rounds but there may be some reason I am not aware of to do the 7 day rounds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midnight112x Posted September 5, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 5, 2013 Thank you. I remember the schedule. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midnight112x Posted September 6, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 6, 2013 These guys are still kickin. No big noticeable progress at this point 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member shellbell4ever Posted September 6, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted September 6, 2013 As long as they are not getting worse, and are moving around and eating I would continue what your doing for now, hopefully they will start feeling better soon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midnight112x Posted September 6, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 6, 2013 Unfortunately I was wrong. It looks like the pearl scale is gettin worse. She is weak and looks to be near death. I've seen her like this before when I first got her during QT so I know she's a fighter. I had to seperate her using a tank divider 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midnight112x Posted September 6, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 6, 2013 Pearl scale didnt make it. Very frustrated because everything was going well for a year now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member bodoba Posted September 6, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted September 6, 2013 I'm sorry to hear that midnight :rip 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 4prettyfish Posted September 6, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted September 6, 2013 I am so sorry to just be reading your post on your two fish. I am deeply sorry your pearlscale didn't make it. I hope your other fish will be okay. This must be very sad for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member dnalex Posted September 7, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted September 7, 2013 I'm so sorry, Daniel. This is through no fault of your own. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member shellbell4ever Posted September 7, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted September 7, 2013 So Sorry you lost her How's the other guy doing today?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Midnight112x Posted September 7, 2013 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 7, 2013 Thank you. The ranchu bear Grylls is doing ok. He's still irritated but shows no other signs other than breathing heavy. He is active, scales look ok etc... Louise had signs of dropsy before she died. It was strange because originally she looked to be in better shape than bear. But I guess that was not the case. I was about to give up on goldfish but a local friend is helping me out to keep bear alive and is restoring hope into my hobby of goldfish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member tithra Posted September 7, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted September 7, 2013 I'm so sorry 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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