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In addition to the coral, let's use the baking soda, as show in the link I have in the sig. Add enough to raise the kH by about 70 ppm for your size tank, please.

When you are done with the WC and salt, please go ahead and add the prazipro to the tune of 1 teaspoon (5ml) for every 20 gallons.

Do you think you can try to follow this schedule, with the 100% WC? If not, I will modify, but let's go ahead and start treatment. :)

Day 1: New water (100% WC), Prazi, Salt, Double Prime

Day 2: Double Prime

Day 3: New water (100% WC), Prazi, Salt, Double Prime

Day 4: Double Prime

Day 5: New Water (100% WC), Salt, Double Prime

Day 6: Double Prime

Day 7: New Water (100% WC), Salt, Double Prime

Day 8: Double Prime

Day 9: New water (100% WC), Prazi, Salt, Double Prime

Day 10: Double Prime

Day 11: New water (100% WC), Prazi, Salt, Double Prime

Day 12: Double Prime

Day 13: New Water (100% WC), Salt, Double Prime

Day 14: Double Prime

Day 15: New Water (100% WC), Salt, Double Prime

Day 16: Double Prime

Day 17: New water (100% WC), Prazi, Salt, Double Prime

Day 18: Double Prime

Day 19: New water (100% WC), Prazi, Salt, Double Prime

Day 20: Double Prime

Day 21: New Water (100% WC), Salt, Double Prime

Day 22: Double Prime

Day 23: New Water (100% WC), Salt, Double Prime

Day 24: Double Prime

Okay hold up - is today Day 1 then?? - should I be doing a 100% water change? I've currently emptied 50% of my water and hopped back on here to check on things.

I'm using a 5 gal bucket to empty and I have (2) 1 gal buckets that I truck back and forth so it's just a little cumbersome but I can definitely do it. I've never done a 100% WC before! Do I leave just enough water in there for him? lol!! (Obviously). Wow, this is a long schedule of treatment! But thanks so much for writing it out! I'm going to print it out so I can check each day off.

Nemo is active and swimming, keeps thinking he's going to get food. That's next I guess. He hasn't eaten since last night's pea. What can I give him?

(Oh! And I did successfully order some MetroMeds tonight! Except they are coming from Pennsylvania to Hawaii! booo living so far away.) So Right now I have the Repashy and Kanaplex.

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Today is day 1, but you do not have to do a 100% WC today.

Let's do this, shall we? Will you update me your parameters daily, and then we can work out together what to do next? It may be the 100% WCs are not even necessary, but I won't know until I see the levels.

I'm glad you were able to order the MMs. Good luck! The schedule is long, but it's actually not really that involved. :)

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Done and done. Just finished up with all of the doses. (Oh I hope I don't run out of Prazi! I only got the 4oz size)

I will update with all parameters daily. Thanks alex, YOU ROCK!

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Food! What do I give? Should I start Repashy w/ Kanaplax yet, or can I give him some Hikari baby pellets?

He's begging, hasn't eaten since his pea last night.

He's languidly swimming around already... ahhh. :) *breathes easier*

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Okay, checking in!

Today when I came home from work in the evening, I saw he was resting on the bottom but perked up when I came by and remained so, languidly swimming around in peaceful goldfish mode. :) No redness yay.

His poos appear black, what is this a result of? The bulge is still there, although I think maybe it's getting a little smaller. maybe. He had soaked baby Hikari pellets for breakfast. Am thinking I should do a pea tonight?

The levels before my double amquel+:

0ppm ammonia, 0ppm nitrite, 0ppm nitrate

7.0 pH (up from yesterdays' 6.8 after adding 1.5 tsp BS) and still only at 35.8 kH, so I added another 1 tsp of BS.

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Do I still do the 100% WC tomorrow?

Check again, but it does not appear that you will need to do that. Make sure you keep pH above 7. :)

You might want to switch to Seachem Prime after you are done with the Amquel. A number of people have reported that it lowers pH when you add more than a single dose. :o

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Do I still do the 100% WC tomorrow?

Check again, but it does not appear that you will need to do that. Make sure you keep pH above 7. :)

You might want to switch to Seachem Prime after you are done with the Amquel. A number of people have reported that it lowers pH when you add more than a single dose. :o

What?! Yikes! I will look about getting some. My LFS only had the Amquel and would be able to special order the Prime for me but I think it'll end up costing me more than if I ordered it online. Boo.

I will be checking the levels in another hour or so after I do some errands. As I understand it, you wanted me to remove the salt and Prazi from the water and start with a fresh dose. If I don't do a WC or just do 50%, I'd be adding on top of whatever is already in there... and the dosage might be messed up.

I'll report back with my findings. I hat to keep bugging you, but I thank you so very much.

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Ok -

7.2 pH and 53.7 KH. Add another tsp of BS I guess..?

0ppm on all other fronts.

Well, unfortunately as fall as I researched there is only a Petco and a small LFS where I live (being one of the smaller less populated islands here in Hawaii. I'm sure Honolulu has a lot more options and maybe I can mail order through somebody closer to me...) Neither one of these stores here where I live of them carry Seachem products. Not a single product of the line. Most of what they carry are API products and a few others, and lukcily Amquel as it does everything for the ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, etc. But as I mentioned, special ordering through the stores will end up costing me more than if I just ordered online somewhere. I see that Petco has Prime online but doesn't stock it locally. Guess our store is too small.

Time to order more stuff online! (shipping to Hawaii just... it hurts.) XD

Orders captain? :)

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I will order. :)

Alex, what's your opinion on the schedule since it's 0ppm on AM, NI, and NR? (see my previous post) Should I still go ahead with 100% WC and redose prazi and salt? thanks!

Nemo's been resting on he bottom only occasionally and is much more active now. Bulge still there though.

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Hi gang.

7.6ph, 60ppmKH

.25 ammonia, 0 nitrite and 0 nitrate

I've never done a 100% water change before.. again.. forgive my fishy ignorance, but doesn't this mess with the cycle? Would it not truly be 100% as he needs some room to swim around in (so it's like.. 90%? but then meds/salt is still in the water...?)

....or do I remove him entirely, housing him in a tub and literally remove all water?

Or do I remove say 75%, (left with 1/4th water in tank) add another 25% back in, then remove 25% so it's as if it was 100%? (I'm making it sound too complicated... what about just 50% WC back to back then?)

sorry!

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No, remove it all. It won't mess with the cycle.

Are you on day 3 or day 4? If on day 3, go ahead and don't do WC, but add a single dose of Amquel and half a teaspoon of baking soda. This should detoxify things, and ready for the 100% WC on day 4. :)

How is Nemo?

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No, remove it all. It won't mess with the cycle.

Are you on day 3 or day 4? If on day 3, go ahead and don't do WC, but add a single dose of Amquel and half a teaspoon of baking soda. This should detoxify things, and ready for the 100% WC on day 4. :)

How is Nemo?

Today is day 4 actually. Yesterday I added your above suggestion.

He is much much better! Rest occasionally on the bottom but it seems to be back to "normal" hanging out to rest. He remains swimming around for hours at a time now. yay!

He had some cement-grey poos... I don't think I've seen THAT before. :/ Hmm. Didn't change his food or anything.

So it appears that the schedule has changed from every other day... to WC, prime, prime, WC... two days in between each WC.

OK... SO I guess I'll just stick him in his tub, treated w/ the amquel and pH and temp matched....w/ a bubbler while I do the WC,.. thanks Alex again!

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Ok gang -

good news: metro-meds are in!

bad news: after last night's 100% WC, I had a filter leak. I had bumped the housing apparently, so it was tiling back a bit... and the filter media was askew as well so this combination of things dripped out over the top of the filter head over the course of 4 hours 2.5 gallons.... all over the wall-to-wall carpet... around the tank so it's not like I can remove the carpet or even more the tank. (Luckily my mom had come out to use the restroom and found out!!)

argh! I suppose it happens to everyone, water spills..... Lucky I have a wet/dry shop vac! That thing sucked up a whole gallon out of the rug. eesh.

So importantly then, I lost 2.5 gal of medicated water (Prazi/salt). I just put some regular treated water because it was 4:30 in the morning and I was a zombie. How this this change things? I wasn't sure how much Prazi and salt to re-add.

Advice?

Specs:

7.6, pH, 0ppm on all fronts, and 71.6 KH.

He perked up so happily when I came home and is begging for food. His bulge is definitely getting smaller.

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Where are you at on the treatments? I would just ignore the spill (I'm sorry that happened) in terms of medication, and carry on as normal.

I don't think I want to feed him MMs, but it's good that it's there now.

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My schedule thus far:

Day 1: 50% WC, recommended prazi, salt... double amquel

Day 2: amquel no WC

Day 3: amquel no WC, levels were good

Day 4 (yesterday) 100% WC, recommended prazi, salts, double amquel

So today is Day 5.... no WC, just double amquel? or single dose? probably two days like before then, so

Day 6 amquel

Day 7 100% waterchange & redose?

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7.6, pH, 0ppm on all fronts, and 71.6 KH

Same as yesterday. So Ill do amquel tonight.

I'm glad that i'm going to have to do the 100% wc tomorrow because unfortunately my carpet is starting to smell.... :( gonna have to move the tank stand and rip up the carpet! Urgh

Edit: Nemo apoears to be normal on all fronts now.. Bulge is reduced to just a small bump. hes swimmin and begging for food always now :)

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If you're still looking into purchasing Prime, might I suggest Seachem Safe? Safe is the dry (powder) version of Prime water conditioner, and can be bought rather cheaply. The upside is that you aren't paying to ship a ton of water, but the downside is that you will have to premix (not a big deal--only takes a second) the powder with water, before each w/c.

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Hey Alex...

I bought the 4 oz size Prazi, which is what... 24 tsp? And I used 2 tsp so far, so I have 22 doses left...?

0ppm on all fronts, pH creeping down to 7.0.

I did my 100% WC but stopped before adding the other elements - on your original schedule, you apparently spaced in periods of time with NO PRAZI, correct? These were the bits in blue? So it's like we're taking a break..?

You wrote:

Day 1: New water (100% WC), Prazi, Salt, Double Prime

Day 2: Double Prime

Day 3: New water (100% WC), Prazi, Salt, Double Prime

Day 4: Double Prime

Day 5: New Water (100% WC), Salt, Double Prime

Day 6: Double Prime

Day 7: New Water (100% WC), Salt, Double Prime

Day 8: Double Prime

But it's been altered to be WC with two days inbetween with now just a single dose of Amquel.

As I had mentioned..:

Day 1: 50% WC, recommended prazi, salt... double amquel

Day 2: amquel no WC

Day 3: amquel no WC

Day 4: 100% WC, recommended prazi, salts, double amquel

Day 5: amquel no WC

Day 6 amquel no WC

Day 7 (today): 100% WC and then... just amquel and prime? no prazi?

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