Regular Member paasaa Posted August 12, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted August 12, 2013 I am struggling to figure this out using the internet alone. I have ordered some goldfish books now, and I love genetics, so hopefully we can sort this out!I was doing a water change and found 9 fry. So, if I have a black moor (mother) and a calico ryukin (father), are there any substantial chances of getting a calico telescope? We would love one. Either way, the babies are well taken care of and loved.I'd love a basics on goldfish color genetics. Thank you! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SynthHermit Posted August 12, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted August 12, 2013 I would assume so, since one of the parent's have it. I'm not well versed in genetics (though that may change a bit thanks to Minecraft mods xP),though, so I can't tell you what the chances would be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member bodoba Posted August 12, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted August 12, 2013 What is the quality of the goldfish that you have? I have not read my genetics book yet so I can't be too much help. I can tell you form the breeders in the states that it takes quite a lot for a line to breed true. If you got these from a breeder vs. a pet shop you would be more likely to get a generation resembling the parents. Remember that goldfish have teraploidal DNA so it's four genes from each parent. I don't think it should deter your breeding efforts just know that breeding the perfect goldfish (no matter the breed) takes decades of hard work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member MummyDJ Posted August 12, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted August 12, 2013 No real input here but...Ooohhh!!!! Yay!!! I had eggs which didn't come to anything which would have been moor/ryukin cross. Would love to see their development. :-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mikroll Posted August 12, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted August 12, 2013 I am struggling to figure this out using the internet alone. I have ordered some goldfish books now, and I love genetics, so hopefully we can sort this out! I was doing a water change and found 9 fry. So, if I have a black moor (mother) and a calico ryukin (father), are there any substantial chances of getting a calico telescope? We would love one. Either way, the babies are well taken care of and loved. I'd love a basics on goldfish color genetics. Thank you! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mikroll Posted August 12, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted August 12, 2013 Tele x non tele = All non tele . So your chances are zero . Which books have you ordered? There are several very good on goldfish . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member shakaho Posted August 12, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted August 12, 2013 Since goldfish "breeds" are determined simply by the way a fish looks, and not its pedigree, almost anything is possible. The ryukin may have telescope ancestors which would make it possible for him to carry a telescope gene. I think you should get some calicos from this cross, and probably other colors, but probably not black. As a general rule, if you cross two kinds of fancy goldfish with different mutations, the offspring will be "fantails," since most mutations are recessive. For a number of reasons, goldfish genetics is incredibly complicated, even for a professional geneticist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member dnalex Posted August 12, 2013 Regular Member Share Posted August 12, 2013 Down with the tetraploids! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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