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So I do not have all of the exact specs for the tank, but I'll post them once I get home. My boyfriend did an ammonia test and that was normal. He also did a 75% water change on Thursday night. I believe the tank is 20gal, but it might be 30gal.

There are two goldfish in the tank, one is a medium sized orange common goldfish. Probably about 3 inches long including the tail. The other one is a huge white common goldfish. He's probably about 10 inches long.

The white goldfish has been at the bottom of the tank since Friday morning. When my boyfriend got up he thought the fish was dead. He was laying on his side at the bottom of the tank. However I could see his gills moving. By mid afternoon he was at the side of the tank right side up, but wouldn't swim around. Saturday morning was the same and so was this morning.

From some things I've read it sounds like Swim Bladder Disease. He is showing no physical signs of disease other than not swimming.

The other goldfish is fine.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

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I know you posted some of this in your first post, but could you please fill this out so things stay organized? :) You can wait until you get home to do the parameters.

Other Required Info:

* Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?

* Water temperature?

* Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?

* What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?

* How often do you change the water and how much?

* How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?

* How many fish in the tank and their size?

* What kind of water additives or conditioners?

* What do you feed your fish and how often?

* Any new fish added to the tank?

* Any medications added to the tank?

* List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.

* Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?

* Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?

Also, please provide photos and video of the behavior when you return home. A Mod will be able to help you as soon as you have these questions and the parameters. :)

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  • Test Results for the Following:
    • * Ammonia Level(Tank)
    • * Nitrite Level(Tank)
    • * Nitrate level(Tank)
    • * Ammonia Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrite Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrate level(Tap)
    • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    • Other Required Info:
      • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?
      • * Water temperature?
      • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?
      • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
      • * How often do you change the water and how much?
  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size?
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often?
  • * Any new fish added to the tank?
  • * Any medications added to the tank?
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?

The fish will be properly assessed after this is filled out to the best of your abilities. It helps us differentiate from one problem to another that need completely different meds

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sorry to hear your fish is unwell. Please fill out all the info above when you are able to, the exact water parameters for tank and tap will be very important to know :)

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Ok here's the information I have.

  • Test Results for the Following:
    • * Ammonia Level(Tank) 0ppm
    • * Nitrite Level(Tank) 0ppm
    • * Nitrate level(Tank) 5ppm or less
    • * Ammonia Level(Tap) 0ppm
    • * Nitrite Level(Tap) 0ppm
    • * Nitrate level(Tap) 0ppm
    • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.6
    • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.8
    • Other Required Info:
      • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? Freshwater Master Kit (drops)
      • * Water temperature? 76F
      • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?
      • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? Cascade Canister Filter, sits on the floor. We also have an air bubbler.
      • * How often do you change the water and how much? We try to change the water 1 per week and when we do it's a 60-75% water change.
      • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? Last water change was Thursday night, 75% water change.
      • * How many fish in the tank and their size? two fish, both common goldfish (I think) white one is huge I'm guessing at about 12inches. Second is about half that size around 5-6inches.
      • * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Tetra Aquasafe Plus whater conditioner per instructions after water change.
      • * What do you feed your fish and how often? New Life Spectrum Jumbo fish formula. I put in 10 pieces once per day, they seemed to be doing fine.
      • * Any new fish added to the tank? No both came together.
      • * Any medications added to the tank? No
      • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. Nothing has been done to the tank.
      • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? No
      • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? Stays at the bottom of the tank, and isn't eating much. We often find him on his side.
    • This has been going on since Friday morning so right after the water change. At first I thought he might be sluggish because maybe the water was a bit cold from the change, but I feel like that should have cleared up by now.
  • Here is one video I took. I will try to post pictures in a minute and another video.
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Here's another video with him moving. I turned on the tank light and he moved. He usually swims more than that.

30-35gal tank.

http://www.amazon.com/Cascade%C2%AE-Canister-Filter-Gallon-Aquariums/dp/B0002DJ9NY That's the filter system (well this one is updated from ours, but you get the idea)

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A mod will be around to help you shortly. Don't worry, the fish can wait a little while we sort this out. Just try not to panic (I'm bad about that! lol)

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I'm trying not too. I mean I figure as long as I see him move a little bit and his gills are moving he's a live and where there is life there is hope. I just feel bad for him.

By the way his name is Moby Dick because he is so large.

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Hello, I'm sorry your fish isn't doing well, and I hope we are going to be able to help in some capacity. Thank you for the video, especially the second one. It is helpful.

I have a question. Is your fish able to get to the very top of the water column, or is he largely just scooting around the tank bottom? Will you try to feel his belly and describe it to us? Thanks.

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Ok, so here's the deal. I did my best to feel his belly. From what I can tell it feel muscular and didn't have any kind of mushy feel. He fought be a bit and didn't want to be touched. Our fish aren't used to hands/arms in the tank so he freaked out a little bit. Should I put in any stress coat? I feel like I just stressed him out.

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No, that's fine. Stress coat really isn't all that helpful, and he will be fine shortly. :)

It does look to me that your diagnosis of swim bladder issues is a very good place to start, especially because he is now tilting and scooting around the tank bottom. There is one thing we can do, which is to treat him with a medicated pellet food called Metro-Meds (available at goldfishconnection.com). This medication may be able to help if he has an active infection that's causing the problem. However, if you've caught this after the infection has been resolved, or if the cause is non-infectious, the Metro-Meds will not help. This is the only thing that we do have to try, though, unfortunately.

Have you seen his poop? What does it look like?

Btw, having a firm belly as you described is a very good thing. :)

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Oh well that's good. I heard that fasting and then feeding peas would help. Do you think he'll improve? We aren't sure how old he is, we think he's 5+ years old. I haven't seen any poop. It might also be hard to tell whose poo whose without catching them in the act.



Do you think it could be anything else that we could try to treat in the mean time?

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Ok. I'd rather try that first (unless he gets worse) I don't want to medicate unless we absolutely have to especially since we don't have a QT for him.

I'll post what we are seeing.



Also thank you dnalex. I appreciate your prompt responses.

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No change this morning. Still laying at the bottom. He will move if the light is turned on. But he still won't go to the surface. I'll post an update video tonight.

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