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Hello ~

I am a new member and not sure I am p[osting this in the correct area...

My granddaughter bought a little Ryukin two days at a pet store. we were very careful bringing him home in the bag fromt he store, and once home, floated the bag in the tank to acclimate him to the tank temp (etc). I tested both the store water he was packed in and the tank for compatibility...all good, so I released him. where he promptly went to the bottom and stayed for about two hurs. He acted as if he could NOT swim! Eventually I removed him (Poirot by name) into a 1 gallon 'critter keeper' with very little water...only about two inches, and one plastic plant.

Poirot is eating (good sign) & pooping (another good sign). A little more active today ~ so I changed out 50% of the water he is in last night and added another extra inch from the tank. I don't know if he can swim to the top for air...and am concerned because the critter keeper has no filtration of any kind.

We thought he had injured his back either when being netted at the store, somehow in the bag travelling home.

Other: Poirot is about 1 1/8" long from nose to tail (not including tail). I am aware of the odd way ryukins swim....but concerned that he's not able to rise . I wondered about treating him with antibiotics...in case of something like swim blasdder disease? If so, what is recommended? Ditto for using salts (I have both Aquarium Salt and Epsom Salt) ?

Food? I have several types of goldfish food...flakes & pellets: Poirot seems to only eat from the bottom of the tank. a friend tells me I should feeding shelled peas, spinach & lettuce....while I can see some value in thsi, I'm not used to this so have NO idea about (or whether) to proceed.

Water parameters (yesterday): pH 6.8'ish', Nitrates 10-20, Ammonia 0.50, Nitrites 0. Tank was treated with Prime, Stability and 1/2 tsp. Neutral regulator.

Should I move Poirot back to the tank? He's swimming up a bit today in the critter keeper....not just lying on the bottom. when he swims, he stays upright.

I appreciate all your help.


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Hi Bertha,

I am going to move this to the Fish Disease and treatment area. There, there is a list of questions that should be answered when looking for help, but you have pretty much answered all that is required :)

1 gallon is extremely small and near impossible to maintain for most fish, so yes, please move him back to the main tank provided pH and temperature are matched. If not, acclimatise him to it.

Secondly, we will need to bring that pH up to 7.0, since 6.8 is a little too low. However please get the GH and KH of the tank and tap tested for the main tank.

New fish will often bottom sit, and it does make it hard to sometimes tell if they are ill, or just very stressed which is often the case for new fish. You will need PraziPro to be able to do a full quarantine on him (PraziPro treats for internal and external parasites).

What size is the main tank, and is it cycled?

Is he the only fish in the tank?

Thanks! :)

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Please copy & paste fill the following form and fill it out to the best of your ability when requesting help for Goldfish Problems:

  • Test Results for the Following:
  • * Ammonia Level(tank)
  • * Nitrite Level(tank)
  • * Nitrate level(tank)
  • * Ammonia Level(tap)
  • * Nitrite Level(tap)
  • * Nitrate level(tap)
  • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
  • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
  • Other Required Info:
  • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?
  • * Water temperature?
  • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?
  • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
  • * How often do you change the water and how much?
  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size?
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often?
  • * Any new fish added to the tank?
  • * Any medications added to the tank?
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?
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