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I was doing a water change and when I poured the water back in Fern started to flip over. I stopped pouring and then she kept flipping over There were bubles streaming from her mouth and gills. It continued for a long time, well over a minute. I wasn't pouring hard by the way. She stopped now and is okay apart from the occasional bottom sitting.

Also Fern has a history of bottom sitting. She does it occasionally but Numis never does. I think she is a little prone to it.

Here are the tank results.

Test Results for the Following:
  • * Ammonia Level (tank): Just over 0.25
  • * Nitrite Level (tank)Less than 0.3mg/l
  • * Nitrate level (Tank)Test Kit doesn’t test that
  • * Ammonia Level (Tap):0
  • * Nitrite Level (Tap)Less than 0.3mg/l
  • * Nitrate level (Tap) Test Kit doesn’t test that
  • * Ph Level, (Tank) (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 5
  • * Ph Level, (Tap) (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 8

Other Required Info:
  • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? Tetra Test Laborett
  • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? Filters built into the hood of the tank. I don’t know what type they are
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Stess Coat Water conditioner
  • * Water temperature? 18 degrees Celsius
  • * How often do you change the water and how much? Most weeks 3 to two times week. About 25%

  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? Today I did a 50%
  • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 4 months and it is 25g
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size? 2 5 inch goldfish
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often? 6 days a week, two times a day, a pinch or two of pellet food.
  • * Any new fish added to the tank? No
  • * Any medications added to the tank? No
  • * List previous issues experienced (dropsy, SBD, etc.)Fern tends to bottom sit. I don’t think she has SBD, she just reacts to things more than other fish. Eg. When I moved them from quarantine to this tank 4 months ago she was bottom sitting regularly for the rest of the week.
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? Fern scraped her side on something a week ago and there was a wound, but it went away.
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? Fern tends to bottom sit. I don’t think she has SBD, she just reacts to things more than other fish. Eg. When I moved them from quarantine to this tank 4 months ago she was bottom sitting regularly for the rest of the week.
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. I have added a tiny amount of salt twice since I begun the tank.
  • * You can really help us to identify with the concern more accurately if you post some pictures and a short video. She has stopped the behaviour and I cannot see any external problems right now.

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Could you retest your pH level for your tank? 5 is quite low, I've never seen a pH that low before.

Also when the fish was flipping, was it a continual flipping like almost a whirling or was it that the fish just flipped belly up and stayed up?

Poor fishy, how is fish doing now?

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Thanks for responding. I will restest the PH as soon as possible.

It was like something was pulling her head up towards the top of the tank at first and she struggled, and towards the end she went belly for a bit.

She is doing really well now though, as if nothing happened.

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Frenzy, if the tank pH is 5, you must do at least a 50-60% WC immediately to bring the pH to at least 6.5 to 7. Even though the jump in pH will be big, it's better than being in a pH of 5. That can be lethal.

Please do the WC, and then re-test the tank pH and post here.

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I did a 50% water change and when I retested the water it still had a PH of 5. I also tested the new water (with water conditioner in it) before I put it in and it had a PH of 7

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Yes, I meant tap water. Also 8 was a typo, I meant 7, sorry. I checked over and that was the only typo.

Thank you so much for your advice Alex! I managed to get my PH to 6.5 and will keep a much closer eye on it in the future. :)

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No worries. That's why it's always good to have many sets of eyes reading over some things. :)

A pH of 6.5 is better than a 5, but still bordering on the dangerous. We need to continue to work on this to try to see if we can determine why your pH dipped so much, and perhaps prevent it from happening again.

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