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i have a fishless cycling 55 gallon for about 5 weeks now...FILLED with algae, pea-soup green, reading about 30 PPM nitrates, three plants thriving in there. Feeding ammonia to about 1 PPM everyday. The ammonia is being regularly metabolized, but there's a fair amount of nitrites AND nitrates.

i guess just wait for the nitrobacters to multiply to reduce the level to nil?

is it possible to have all the above happening without nitrobacters?? clearly NH3 is ending up nitrate. Perhaps the nitrobacters need more time to multiply enough. Not sure. i really dont wana put fish in until nitrite falls and remains at 0

(i did a water change)

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What is the ammonia reading in the tank? 6ppm should be plenty to feed a cycle completely, and then you should only need to add some more when you are convinced the tank is cycled, and you want to make sure it cycles through in a reasonable time. Since you're reading nitrates, just let the ammonia cycle through completely without adding anymore.

And to your question, nitrobacter and nitrosomona bacteria are fundamental to the cycle, however if they didn't exist, I'm sure some form of bacteria would have evolved to function similarly! Guess we'll never know though ;)

The cycle should be complete before adding the fish, and you will need to do a really good water change to clean the tank, and to get rid of the algae so the tank is nice and clean. Changing a large amount of water will not harm the cycle, provided you match the temperature and pH :)

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If your nitrites get above the 4-5ppm the cycle will stall :o

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When there is too much byproduct 'nitrite' avialable the ammonia eating bacteria will stop consuming and shut down.

Do water changes that are pH matched to keep your nitrites between 1-2 ppm for a fishless cycle. Good luck :)

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alright, water changed, dechlorinated. All boats in. Ammonia, nitrite and nitrates at zero. Let's see. Thanks for all the advice!

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alright, water changed, dechlorinated. All boats in. Ammonia, nitrite and nitrates at zero. Let's see. Thanks for all the advice!

did you bring your Ammonia back to 1-2ppms?

Well sometimes Im not the best speller :o

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i did, about 10 hrs ago, and now the nitrites are back up to where they were before the water change! i guess the good news is that the ammonia is being eaten by a nice colony but not so for nitrites...i'll just hafta wait

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if the nitrites get to 2-3ppm do a 50-70% water change then add your ammonia back :)

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Is all of the ammonia of 1ppm being consumed every 24 hours?

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Is all of the ammonia of 1ppm being consumed every 24 hours?

Yes, ammonia is regularly being consumed. Actually the ammonia has been testing negative regularly for a couple weeks. It's the nitrites that have been the problem, but now they also regularly being consumed! Only blue results every time on the API test kit! i'm in no rush, im gonna give it time to make sure the cycle is stable and safe

actually it is taking less than 24 hours to have the ammonia consumed...hungry little guys in there

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Is all of the ammonia of 1ppm being consumed every 24 hours?

Yes, ammonia is regularly being consumed. Actually the ammonia has been testing negative regularly for a couple weeks. It's the nitrites that have been the problem, but now they also regularly being consumed! Only blue results every time on the API test kit! i'm in no rush, im gonna give it time to make sure the cycle is stable and safe

actually it is taking less than 24 hours to have the ammonia consumed...hungry little guys in there

awesome possum :thumbs:

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