ichthius 122 Posted October 27, 2012 (edited) Here's one of the fish I imported as well as a painting imported from Japan. Over 100 years separate the fish and the painting. http://goldfishgarag...-tail-fish.html Best fishes David www....................com Edited October 27, 2012 by Ichthius 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helen 8,511 Posted October 27, 2012 that's amazing!.. i really like how similar they look after that many years it's nice to see some fish are still "fish" not that i'm knocking fancies.. they're my faves.. but you know eh?.. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.B 2,535 Posted October 27, 2012 The color and patterns are unreal. The shubunkin's likeness is amazing to the painting. Wow. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pearlscaleperfect 3,561 Posted October 27, 2012 Wow that's a wonderful painting (and fish!) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ichthius 122 Posted October 27, 2012 http://...................blogspot.com/2012/10/1910-hand-painted-japanese-goldfish.html Here are the other paintings from the collection. I had to battle someone from Germany I get them but it was well worth it as these are one of a kind originals. They even have thumb tack holes in the corners. By far my most prized goldfish art. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dnalex 13,633 Posted October 27, 2012 Impressive! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ichthius 122 Posted October 27, 2012 that's amazing!.. i really like how similar they look after that many years it's nice to see some fish are still "fish" not that i'm knocking fancies.. they're my faves.. but you know eh?.. I actually find the wildtype tail very refreshing. I can think of a shubunkin I've had with a short tail. I'm trying to get more for the next import. There's also something going on with the color. It has no metallic scales so it maybe a colored Matt but the eyes are metallic. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jhortensius 101 Posted October 27, 2012 Those water colours are amazing!! What a treasure. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helen 8,511 Posted October 27, 2012 that's amazing!.. i really like how similar they look after that many years it's nice to see some fish are still "fish" not that i'm knocking fancies.. they're my faves.. but you know eh?.. I actually find the wildtype tail very refreshing. I can think of a shubunkin I've had with a short tail. I'm trying to get more for the next import. There's also something going on with the color. It has no metallic scales so it maybe a colored Matt but the eyes are metallic. so there is a calico colour pattern with no metallic scales.. are you sure? that's the first time i've heard of that. weird 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ichthius 122 Posted October 27, 2012 (edited) that's amazing!.. i really like how similar they look after that many years it's nice to see some fish are still "fish" not that i'm knocking fancies.. they're my faves.. but you know eh?.. I actually find the wildtype tail very refreshing. I can think of a shubunkin I've had with a short tail. I'm trying to get more for the next import. There's also something going on with the color. It has no metallic scales so it maybe a colored Matt but the eyes are metallic. so there is a calico colour pattern with no metallic scales.. are you sure? that's the first time i've heard of that. weird It's called colored Matt. They are the recessive homozygous fish often called pinkie Matts an usually have black button eyes. In some populations you can get wonderful colors in the Matt's. it's actually very commercially desirable because you can breed your calicos (heterozygous) to your Matts (homozygous) and not have to cull any homozygous dominant brown wild types in a calico line. Edited October 27, 2012 by Ichthius 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ichthius 122 Posted October 27, 2012 Impressive! The Phoenix has amazing detail! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ichthius 122 Posted October 27, 2012 These are colored transparent tanchos I bred. Matt fish still have guanine in the peritoneum so you can't see their guts, these are lacking guanine. http://...................blogspot.com/2012/03/transparent-tancho-bristol-shubunkin.html 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pearlscaleperfect 3,561 Posted October 27, 2012 That is so cool. I love tanchos, My dream fish is a tancho crowned pearlie. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fantailfan1 26,742 Posted October 27, 2012 Very nice--the fish and the painting! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number20121 2,663 Posted October 27, 2012 (edited) Very cool, I love "both" the new fish! These colored matts, do they have not a single metallic scale? Not trying to hijack your topic, but I'm just curious about my big shubunkin now. She only has a few metallic scales, but silver eyes. Her offspring are pinkies similar to the ones in your video, with some orange and very little black coloring, and almost no metallic scales. They have silver eyes, except for one which has one silver and one button eye. Edited October 27, 2012 by Oerba Yun Fang 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shakaho 6,312 Posted October 27, 2012 By definition, a matt has no metallic scales. I believe they all have button eyes. (The word "all" scares me, LOL.) Most of my nacreous fish have only a scattering of metallic scales. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ichthius 122 Posted October 28, 2012 More video http://...................blogspot.com/2012/10/japanese-import-london-shubunkin.html The whole calico Matt transparent system can be very confusing. Dave Mandley has written a lot about it. I try not to think about it to much. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helen 8,511 Posted October 28, 2012 amazing, that's one very attractive fish!.. and i too can't wrap my brain around no shiny scales for a fish to be calico we can leave it to the experts and just enjoy the results :rofl 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dnalex 13,633 Posted October 28, 2012 "All" is anathema to scientists 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number20121 2,663 Posted October 28, 2012 More video http://goldfishgarag...-shubunkin.html The whole calico Matt transparent system can be very confusing. Dave Mandley has written a lot about it. I try not to think about it to much. Maybe it's just me, but I don't see a video? Reloaded the page several times. oO 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helen 8,511 Posted October 28, 2012 the link on kokos is to his offsite blog, then the vid is just a one liner link, i missed it first too. you just need to click the link, there is no thumbnail. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ichthius 122 Posted October 28, 2012 (edited) Sorry I'll imbed the video when I'm in from working with the fish. Power washing tanks, water changes, winterizing. All done on phone. Edited October 28, 2012 by Ichthius 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number20121 2,663 Posted October 28, 2012 That's alright! Power washing tanks sounds like a blast LOL 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ichthius 122 Posted October 29, 2012 Better pictures and video embedded here: http://...................blogspot.com/2012/10/japanese-shubunkin-standard-tail-fish.html 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number20121 2,663 Posted October 29, 2012 That is such a beautiful fish, thanks for posting the link again! The colors on this guy are just amazing 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites