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  • Test Results for the Following:
  • * Ammonia Level- 0ppm
  • * Nitrite Level - 0 ppm
  • * Nitrate level - 5.0
  • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.8ph
  • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.8 ph
    Other Required Info:
  • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API drops
  • * Water temperature? 78f
  • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 25 gallons -9 months
  • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? Internal back of tank filter w/ three mechanical stages, and a biological stage, run with a Rio 8HF8 (550 gph)
  • * How often do you change the water and how much? 50% to 70% weekly
  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? two days ago 70%, yesterday 50%

  • * How many fish in the tank and their size? 2 Orandas 3-4 inches
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Prime w/ water changes
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often? Hikari Lionhead, Bloodworms, occasional peas
  • * Any new fish added to the tank? No
  • * Any medications added to the tank? No
  • * List previous issues experienced (dropsy, SBD, etc.) No
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. Added 10 teaspoons of salt two days ago
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? No
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? As of two days ago one fish is headstanding at the bottom of the tank. Actually it insist on burrowing its head at the base of a plant or in the corner. No other signs of problems. Eyes and scales are okay, no bumps or spots. Fish was fine before this without any problems. I have added 10 teaspoons of salt and have been fasting the fish. I am planning to try to get it to eat some peas tonight. Fish does seem stressed, steady gulping and gill movement. The only thing thing out of the ordinary was I asked a friend to feed the fish for one day while I was gone. I came back to this situation. I am assuming they overfed, but it seems like a drastic reaction to one overfeeding?

This is a beautiful fish which has been very healthy up until now. I was just commenting to my wife last week as to how well the fish were doing. I would appreciate any help you can provide.

Thank you,

John

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Hi and welcome to Kokos:D I am sorry your fish isn't doing well.

Could you get a video of this behavior?

Also what is their poo like?

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Hello Miss Colonel,

I could get a video later, after work. But it would be pretty boring. She is juse sitting still, head down, up against the base of a plant or the corner of the tank. If I gently move her out, she swims slowly across the bottom to the next plant or corner and doesthe same thing.

John

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Thank you for your response. Yes, I will get the video. The breathing is heavier than is normal but I wouldn't describe it as frantic at this point. No, I have not seen poo, which is why I started the fast.

John

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The fish is not "confirmed", but from what I can tell visually, I would guess that way. My other fish (which I would guess a male) has always been the dominat one and does chase her from time to time. He is staying very close to her while she is in her headstand. Her belly is always round (egg shaped) so I'm not sure I would notice if it was a little bigger. I'll check.

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The reason I'm asking is that it may be spawning time. Females carrying eggs will head stand to avoid the attentions of the males and get some rest in that manner.

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