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Just an update. The white bump on it's left side wen is slowly disspearing, now just a bit of white, here's a photo:

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but there's a new orange-white spot appearing on it's right side wen... it just appeared overnight because it wasn't there last night when I was doing water change, here's photo:

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It looks like wen doohs and dahs to me :rofl

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ok so I just got back home and saw the orange-white spot that was on it's wen this morning are now about to fall off, so now it looks like it has a string of white thing on that orange-white spot location, I've upload a video(you can skip to 0:15 to see a closeup):

could this be some kind of parasite?

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I don't think it's a parasite. You can take a Q-tip and swab it off.

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it fell off on its own when I was scooping him up for water change. It appeared as an light-orange string and when I tries to grab it, it kind of "dissolved" into an dark orange-ish liquid on my hand and now it's wen has gone back to normal. didn't get a chance to take a photo of the string tho :(

However I finally get a chance to take a picture during WC without him swimming around so much, as you can see in the picture that his right side scale is still kinda sticking out and still seemed bit more bloated than his left side.

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just wondering, does the scale goes back to normal when he is healed? or will the scale stays like that?

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How many days has it been since the MMs?

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today is the 7th day for both Metro and epsom treatment

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OK. Thanks. Tomorrow is the last day of Epsom :)

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Yes, please.

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update: today the oranda seemed to float more often near the water surface...his stomach seemed more bloated and scales more sticking out than before... here's some photo:

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is there anything else I could do? shall I still stop the epsom salt today?

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Yes, if it's been 8 days, because if you let it go longer, you run the risk of anemia.

Has he been eating his med gel food? Try to give him a little more of it.

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Ya he's still eating and pooping good :P. Ok I'll try to give it bit more tomorrow.

Usually how long does the gelfood treatment need to be?

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update: today the oranda is even more bloated, now on both its left and right belly with scales sticking out. Still eats fine and swims around though (I now starts to feed him a little bit more of the med gelfood everyday as you stated before). Here's some photo when doing wc:

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Today is the 10th day that he is on the medication. Do you think the dropsy is on its late stage now? :(

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Just wanted to stop in... How much MM are we giving ? Whats the Temp?

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I mixed 1 tablet with 20 gram of gelfood, then divide into 25 blocks. Each block is then divide in half and each half is for 1 day

Temperature is 25-26 C

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All his scales are now sticking out, bloated on both sides. But he still eats and poops well, shall I try adding more metro powder into the gelfood?

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Hi Kerri,

After consulting with Helen, it's agreed that in cases where the fish is not responding to the metronidazole like this, there may be another parasitic influence, such as flukes. Given that they initially had anchor worms, it's very possible that flukes are there as well. To that end, we would like to suggest treating for flukes as well. Helen says that this should be available at your LFS. It's called AquaMaster Fluke & Tapeworm tablets. Could you get that, and we can start adding that to the treatment plan?

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I can sure go to my LFS and see if they have any. But just wondering, so does it mean that it is not dropsy? does fluke cause bloating and scales sticking out aswell?

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No, it's dropsy. :(

Dropsy is the name given to a set of symptoms that include bloatedness and pineconing. A number of different could feasibly cause a fish to dropsy, and some of these causes are not infections. Among the infections that cause dropsy, bacteria and parasites are very common. The metronidazole takes care of a lot of the bacteria, and some of the parasites. We'd like to add Prazi to extend the range of parasites being eliminated.

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Oh I see. And I've just bought the AquaMaster Fluke and Tapeworm tablets at my LFS. Do i follow the instruction on it? And do I still feed him the metro gelfood? And because he is in the plastic tub and I need daily 100% WC, do I re-add this fluke tablet everyday?

Edit: the instruction on it state: "use at rate of 1 tablet per 20 litres of aquarium water. After 48 hours from initial treatment change 25% of aquarium water and clean filter medium. Repeat dose after 7 days to prevent re-infestation."

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Wow, that was quick! :)

You want to follow the dosage recommended by the manufacturer, except that you'll be changing the water daily, and so will need to add fresh Prazi after each WC. You only add Prazi for 4 days, and then you go without for 3. We can evaluate things at that point.

Yes, please do continue to feed the Metro gel food! :)

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Wow you replied quick too! Lol

Hope you saw the last post I edited about the instruction.

But since it state to do 25% WC after 48 hours, it means that the amount of tablet in tank should be less than 1 tablet after the WC. Will it be fine to add the same amount everyday? Or shall I decrease a bit after 48 hours(2 days)?

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