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Just now when I was feeding him the med gel food, it chewed for awhile then spit some white powdery like things out, no green veggies is spitting out, so I was worried if it could be the medicine he is spitting out? How can he distinguish med inside a gel food?!

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ok thanks. But also just now I was checking the other fancy in my main tank, I find that its left side stomach has been squashed and its kind of sinked in and appeared a bit red (it has a fat belly, but its not dropsy, its belly is always fat), I spotted that injury like 2 days ago or so, but it was just a little bit purple-ish sinked wound...I think it was probably due to one of the deco in my tank and it might try to squish in one of the tight spot. I have removed the deco but the fish has been breathing really fast and rapid, is it stress due to the injury? Anything I can do at the moment?

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These are few of the picture of the wound. This morning I found it is staying at the bottom of the tank, not swimming, just lays on the gravel. Only starts to swim when I turn the light on. It's still breathing very rapidly

http://i49.tinypic.com/rwt9xc.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/ra12cl.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/amwrhl.jpg

Also it might not be clear in the pic, but I can see some white cotton like things on the wound, floats around.

Since I've removed the deco, I've just took a pic of the deco itself, but i've highlight how close it was to the side of the tank:

http://i50.tinypic.com/9u98af.jpg

now the tank has only gravel and 2 water plants

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One more thing. It didn't want to eat anything today :(

it takes a bite of the gel food then spit it out, tried again with flake food, did the same thing :(

he was eating so good just yesterday!

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hun, i would like you to get one tablet that i sent you, cut it in half, straight down the line, squashi it like i showed you in the video (did i post the vid? i will have to look back now lol) and then i want you to just add it to the water. take a spoon, stir the surface of the water not creating too much current,. just so that the granules can fall to the bottom. then, grab a clove of garlic. squash it on a plastic chopping board. take the spoon, wet it with the garlic juice and slowly stir the water again. this might encourage the fish to begin looking for food and he will be forced to suck up the med from the base.

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so will it be best if I take it out into another plastic tub, so that the med will not fall onto the gravel? and do I need to raise the temperature?

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ok. So i'll need to take carbon cartridge out of the filter right? how long does this treatment need to be? because I should be changing the water in about 2 days time.

Also do I need to treat the wound with iodine or something?

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sorry have another question, so do your guys reckon that this wound and the behavior are caused by the deco or some bacterial or parasite thats in the fish?

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just an update, the pearlscale isn't doing good at all even after adding the med and garlic. Now it just let the current in the tank take it, flip it over, he just doesn't try to swim at all. Hardly takes a breath... I just don't get it, he was all good just yesterday :(

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can you upload a video of the fish's behaviour? what does the bruise look like now? is it possible that this is a bacteria? normally when a fish receives an injury from ornaments, they're pretty much superficial scrapes that can be fixed with a little salt in the water. this seems either he was pushed around and knocked onto the ornament or, there is an internal bacteria happening.

how is the oranda doing?

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the pearlscale passed away this morning :(

I think the wound might come from the ornament in my tank because the wound used to be half the size as in the picture I posted before. But then I think the wound might got infected and allowed bacteria to go inside the fish's body...

the oranda is doing good, swims around the eating normally, though the scale is still sticking out like before, still doing 100% water change daily. But according to Alex's previous post, he ask me to notify him when epsom salt have been used for 4 days, and today is day 4, shall I continue with the epsom salt treatment?

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aaww hun, i am sorry about the pearlie.. RIP little bud :(

how is the oranda looking? any change to the swelling or pineconing? normally around this time you can see a difference.

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Thanks.

The scales on the oranda I think are pretty much the same, although I think its belly has gone down a bit. Here's some picture I just took:

http://i50.tinypic.com/69izyf.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/2qstf0j.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/15yslme.png

http://i45.tinypic.com/34t8goj.png

http://i47.tinypic.com/20h2bdw.png

I've also just found that there's this big white thing on its wen, could it be just normal wen growth? here's the picture of the white spot:

http://i49.tinypic.com/14trogo.png

http://i47.tinypic.com/j742g3.jpg

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overall, i see good progress, i do have a little concern for the bump on the wen, to me, it does not look like wen growth, but i am no expert with wens. wen growth should look milky white either in blotch or a hazy smear of milky white, not necessarily a protruded bump, and to me, the bit you circled does not show milky white.

but then again, he could just be having a freak growthspurt in one area. it's not uncommon.

there are others whom own fish with wens and have good experience with them. i will see if i can get someone to have a look.

is he eating his medicated gelfood ok?

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Hi Kerry. I'm sorry I wasn't able to check in all day, but you are getting the best help from Helen. I'm sorry about the pearlie's passing, and hope for a speedy recovery of the oranda.

Let us know more about that bump on the wen. Is there any dark red around it?

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Thanks Alex.

I found the white spot today, not sure how long it had been like this, but I'd say less than a couple of days. There is no dark red area around the bump, the colour just gradually goes from red(normal wen) to a bit pink then to the white spot. Actually I think the bump had been there before, just that it has gone a bit pinkish-white.

And yeah it's been eating the gelfood very well, keeps on wanting more when i put my hand above him :)

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