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Chutney, it, Chutney. The goldfish everyone in my family loves best got another lump, but this time it's worse. About 4 days ago, a lump very much like the first showed up, and I assumed it would go away just the same. It was round, slightly smaller than his eye, about that same distance behind his right gill. Two days ago, it turned into an open wound (with white, solid pus), and he started having a little trouble with floatiness. I was afraid his tankmates would pick on him, and I wanted to prevent infection, so I put him in 6 gallons of water in a Sterilite tub, with 1 tablespoon of salt dissolved in it. The open wound looked worse this morning, with scales sticking up around it from the puffiness, and the pus coming outwards. But Chutney was still acting okay, so I went out to eat with friends, planning to post here and change the water when I returned. Chutney seemed much more pathetic when I returned home. He was floating way more, and sideways, and seeming more lethargic. If he kept acting like that, I figured he would be dead before morning. I figured I should at least try to excise the pus, because if he died really soon anyway I would have at least tried to save him. So before I put Chutney in the fresh quarantine tank, I did a desperate amateur surgery. I put him in a shallow tray of quarantine tank water, and very gently pressed the sides of the ulcer and pulled off (no resistance) the pus with sterilized tweezers. I then dabbed a cotton swab with hydrogen peroxide The ulcer has now appeared to close, and the scales are no longer sticking up around it. He swims around fine now, but sometimes floats upwards, tail end first. Where the lump was is now red, and slightly raised, but the scales are flat. It is kind of white in the middle, but I don't see any pus. It is on an area that is normally white (Chutney is orange and white). I cannot get an accurate image of his side. My camera is too bad. It doesn't show up any better on video. (His tankmates (Chippie and Blunderbuss) are as robust and vigorously healthy as ever.) Here is my post from the first time something like this happened: http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/index.php?/topic/112639-what-should-i-do-about-this-lump/ * Ammonia Level: 0 * Nitrite Level: 0 * Nitrate Level: 0 (it's a quarantine tank) * Tap Water Levels: Ammonia: 0.25 ppm * Ph, Tank: 7.6 * Ph, Tap: 7.6 * Test Kit: API Freshwater drop test kit. * Water temperature: 68 degrees Fahrenheit * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? Regular tank is 45 US gallons, running since February 2012. Quarantine tank I set up yesterday is 6 gallons. * Filters: Aquaclear 70 and Aquaclear 30. Nothing on quarantine tank. * How often do you change the water and how much? For the main tank, I change 2/3 of the water, weekly. I last changed it Wednesday. For the quarantine tank I just changed all of the water about an hour ago (and added a tablespoon of salt) It had all fresh water yesterday, with a tablespoon of salt. * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? Yesterday, see above. * How many fish in the tank and their size? In 45 gallon: Two lionheads, 3" long including tails. In quarantine: one lionhead that's the same size, who of course usually lives with the other two. * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Seachem Prime, 1.5x standard dose because of chloramine and wanting to be on the safe side. * What do you feed your fish and how often? I haven't been feeding Chutney at all in quarantine. Normally, I feed them once a day every day except for water change day, when I don't feed them at all. I feed them 1/2 a block (between the 3 of them) veggie-based gel food five days a week (I can't remember the brand! It comes frozen, in little "serving size" foil things, maybe it was "Formula Two?" It's in a Zip-loc now and I didn't relabel it correctly) and soaked New Life Spectrum sinking pellets one day a week. * Any new fish added to the tank? No; all three fish were purchased together and added to the tank back in July 2012. * Medication/treatment history for fish and tank: I did the standard Koko's PraziPro/salt treatment when I first got the fish, back in July 2012. I added a tablespoon of salt to the quarantine tank. * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? (All described above.) * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? Sometimes when Chutney stops swimming, he floats upwards, tail end first, but can correct himself easily.
Test Results for the Following: * Ammonia Level 0.50 * Nitrite Level 1.0 * Nitrate level 0.0 * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 6.2 * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 8.2 Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API Drops - Freshwater Master Test Kit * Water temperature? 74 * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 55 G - Cycling 1 month * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? AquaClear50 + Marineland H.O.T. Magnum 250 (no Biowheel) + old TetraTec PF300 * How often do you change the water and how much? Normally 25% twice a week, but because of Ammonia/Nitrite spike during Cycle PWC 20% everyday for past 3 days. One 40% PWC last Sunday. * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? Yesterday, 20% * How many fish in the tank and their size? 1 med Fancy Fantail 3-4"; 1 med Comet 3"; 1 Ryukin 2"; 2 small Panda Butterfly/Moors 2" * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Top Fin Water Conditioner, AmQuel Plus * What do you feed your fish and how often? ProGold pellets 2x/day * Any new fish added to the tank? same 5 fish for a little over a month * Any medications added to the tank? not yet * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. salt during initial tank set up (moved fish from 15 G over to 55 G) * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? Panda Butterfly in question has been changing colors from velvety black moor color to patches of gold and white scales. * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? Nothing unusual, playful and loves to eat. Latest changes: Last night, I installed a used TetraTec PF300 Power Filter to the tank to supplement my two existing filters. I put used Biomax media inside one side of the filter's compartment... the Biomax was once in the H.O.T. Magnum 250 (used Fluval Biomax inside the canister vs. the carbon Marineland supplied) so it had some bac colony growth. Plus I added new Bio Stars. My H.O.T Magnum now has the polishing insert (micron filter) and the Aquaclear50 is still running, too. This tank is still cycling... I have an Ammonia and Nitrite spike, thus the frequent PWC. This morning I found a PIMPLE-LIKE bump on one of my Panda Butterfly. The growth happened overnight. He/She seems fine, no strange behaviour, eating well. I did my best to snap a picture (so hard when they swim so fast!). (see below) What is it? P.S. I have been reading the forum here a lot... thanks for the great info during my hobby start up! Because of this site's helpful details, I learned early on I had to get my 4 original baby goldfish out of my son's 15 Gallon tank pronto! I bought a USED 55 gallon tank to give them their room and added one more Panda. Things have been cycling fine until I saw the bump this morning, and I am writing for the first time. sorry so blurry