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Hi guys! I've recently purchased a bunch of orandas and one ryukin from a owner who could no longer look after them and they were in quite bad shape (they were sold to me in a dirty mop bucket and murky brown water ). When I got them home and put them in my tank, they were quite lethargic and just kind of sat on the bottom of the tank, I noticed then their fins were clamped up and almost all of them have veining in their tails. I followed the advice of my local petstore and they advised me to just add aquarium salt and they will get better over time. Its been about 2 months since I've bought them and I've noticed they are swimming much more actively, eating normally, and the fins don't seem to be as clamped up anymore. Was just wondering what else I can do to help out my goldfish as their tails still have the veining in them - will this ever go away? there is one smaller oranda who's anal/lower bottom fins are still very much clamped up - is there any other way apart from aquarium salt to help this? Another seemed to have a bit of fungal growth but the aquarium salt hasn't seemed to help it much, would you advise me to use multicure (it freaked me out the last time it turned my tank green for a week ) I have a 6ft tank and there's 6 orandas, 1 ryukin and 4 plecos and a few guppies. Hope you guys can help Anal Fins Clamping Fin/Tail Veining White/Pearl Scales on end of dorsal fin - not sure if fungal/bacterial?
Test Results for the Following: * Ammonia Level(Tank)- anywhere from 0 to .25, but I'm thinking it's closer to .25 * Nitrite Level(Tank)- 0 * Nitrate level(Tank)- anywhere from 40-80. With the color guide to check with my API Freshwater Master Test Kit, the 40 and 80 look almost identical in color * Ammonia Level(Tap)- 0 * Nitrite Level(Tap)- 0 * Nitrate level(Tap)- 0 * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)- 7.6 * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)- 7.6 Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API Freshwater Master Test Kit. Drops * Water temperature? between 71 and 75. I think it's 71 though. * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? It's a 29/30 gallon, but I have about 25-27 gallons of water in it. It has been running since May 16th * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? Fluval AquaClear. Size 50 (20-50 gallons) 200 GPH * How often do you change the water and how much? I change the water once every 2 weeks by vacuuming the gravel in a certain section (4 sections in tank). Vacuum out about 10% of tank water. * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? Last water change was November 5th and I changed 10% of the water * How many fish in the tank and their size? There are two goldfish in the tank and the biggest is about 3-3 1/2 inches and the smallest is about 2-2 1/2 inches * What kind of water additives or conditioners? I use Jungle Start Right water conditioner (with aloe vera) * What do you feed your fish and how often? I have fed them Omega One natural protein formula protein enhanced goldfish flakes since I set up their tank in May. I feed them twice a day. However, as of yesterday, I have been feeding them peas (without the shell) because of the problems one is having as I will tell you later. * Any new fish added to the tank? No * Any medications added to the tank? Yes, I added API Fungus Cure into the tank for two consecutive treatments (as directed by the medication) and un-iodized salt (a teaspoon for every 5 gallons for one treatment, as I was told by a fish store). * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. I used API Fungus Cure for one full treatment (2 doses, as directed on box) from October 5th to October 7th. I used the medication exactly as directed. I also bought un-iodized salt (ingredients are salt and sodium silicoaluminate) to put a total of 4 teaspoons in it (as directed by a local fish store). That was only a one-time treatment since I wasn't aware of the directions for salt treatment. * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? I have noticed a weird thick white line on my goldfish's anal fin that I haven't noticed before (I could have just never noticed it before and it's always been there though). I also found black tips on one of my fish's fins (chemical burns from ammonia poisoning is what I found out from researching on the internet) but it is gone now (I corrected it with Tetra SafeStart with a one-time dose). However, the chemical burns did not show up on my smallest goldfish, the one that has been sick. * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? Yes, my smallest goldfish has been sitting at the bottom for about 2 months now (started mid-September). I noticed that she doesn't open her mouth to eat. I haven't seen her eat in this amount of time. She occasionally opens her mouth really wide, but other than that I never see her open her mouth. I tried the fungus cure because I researched extensively on the internet and most people said if they don't open their mouths then it is because they have mouth fungus. I tried the medicine, and she opened her mouth for the first time since I noticed her being sick, but she still wouldn't eat. She goes to the food every time I feed them like she wants to eat, but she can't open her mouth it seems. She sits at the bottom whenever I'm not in the room, but as soon as I come into the room, she comes toward me and gets excited still. Also, she had been putting her head above water repeatedly (but not gulping), but I have no noticed this behavior much the past week or so. About 3 nights ago, I noticed she was sitting on the bottom with her bottom up in the water. I knew this was usually attributed to swim bladder disease, but I am still a rookie at having goldfish (I've had them for a year now) so I don't know what is causing all these symptoms. I wanted to take her to the vet, but there are none in my state (Alabama), only surrounding states and I can't afford to travel that far. I've called Petsmart and fish stores and no one can tell me what's wrong with my fish. I'm extremely worried about her and I just want to know what her illness is where I can get her the correct medication so she can be well again. Also, I got both fish at the same time and they were both about the same size. Now she is much smaller than the other and I didn't think about it having something to do with illness until she started showing symptoms. I'm wondering how long this has been a problem. The fish are either comet or common goldfish, I'm not sure which. I can upload pictures of her anal fin and of her in general if anyone needs it. I'm sorry this has been such a long post. Thank you to anyone who can help me solve this mystery and give me advice on what to do!
I wanted to try to figure out why 3 of my beautiful fish died. I don't want to repeat the events which led to death. I just found this site, so I can't fill out the form since I'm describing events over the last 2 months. I do keep a log, however, and I'll give as much info. as possible. I apologize for the length of this. On July 23, 2 Ranchus arrived from Raingarden. They were both in the same bag. I put them in a cycled tank that hadn't had any other fish, but I did use filter media which had been cycled. A calico, Flora, was bottom sitting, tail down, and she was having trouble with balance and bouyancy. This cleared up in a few days. I checked water quality for the next 4 days. Ammonia, Nitrate, Nitrite all 0ppm.I was feeding them once a day Progold pellets, kale (microwaved), and blood worms. On the third day here, I did a 50% water change in a 75 gallon tank. Then 2 days later another 50% water change, Then 2 days later another 50% water change. Two days later another 50% water change. At this point, I began my usual routine of 80% water change every 5 days. The filtration on all my tanks is a Fluval 406 and an over the top Fluval filter. On August 13, 2 new orandas arrived from Raingarden. I had another new 75 gallon with filter media which was cycled. I followed the routine above, except about a week after the orandas arrived, I forgot the chlorine treatment. They were exposed for about 5 minutes before I remembered it. One of the orandas seemed to be flashing quite a bit, so I did a Prazi treatment the day after the chlorine incident. During all this time, my water chemistry read 0ppm for ammonia and nitrates. On August 26, all the prazi treatments (3) were done. In early August, I Youtubed about Repashy Soilent Green and started feeding this to all my fancies: Ryunkin, 3 orandas, 2 ranchus. I bought another Ranchu and a butterfly telescope from Dandy Orandas which arrived on 8-19. These fish were in separate bags. At this point, I had dismantled the 46 gallon, and had two 75 gallons. The Ranchus from Raingarden were in one 75 gallon, the orandas with the ryunkin were in the other 75. I put the new purple Ranchu in with the two Raingarden Ranchus, and the telescope went in with the orandas. One of the orandasimmediately began nipping at the telescopes eyes and body. This went on for a few hours. the new telescope hid in a corner and wouldn't come out. So I decided to put the new telescope in with the Ranchus, and the new purple Ranchu. Then the new purple Ranch begins picking on the telescope, so I moved him to the oranda tank. On September 1, I decided to set up the 46 gallon again for the telescope, because he couldn't get any food. Both Ranchus would get all the food long before the telescope could see it to eat it. This was a great decision. The telescope relaxed and became more active. On September 12, I bought a new butterfly telescope to put in with the other. So now I have 2 telescopes in the 46 gallon. Chapter 2 DEATH The first to go was a sweet female oranda. Symptoms: This oranda was fine and then one morning she was actually laying her head down on a piece of drift wood. She seemed very weak. I could not see any physical symptoms. She would not eat. I took her out and put her in a hospital tank, and treated her with API General Cure. She continued to weaken and died by the next afternoon.At this point, I stopped feeding pellet food to all the fish after reading Ken's statement on gel food and digestive problems. This immediately perked up several fish, namely the purple Ranchu who was becoming very lethrgic and bottom sitting. On September 21, the next Oranda showed the same symptoms. Weak, formed body into a C, and died very quickly, by the end of the day. The Ryunkin and the small Petsmart oranda were in this tank as well, and showed no syptoms of disease. They are active, brightly colored, and voracious. Now over to the Ranchu tank. On September 28, one of the Raingarden Ranchus, the one who had balance and bouyancy problems initially, began showing the same symtoms: bottom-sitting, letargy, and quick death. I never performed a necropsy(?) as I'm not comfortable doing so at this time. So that's the story. As I was writing this, I realized how much stress I put on all these fish. Right now I have the two remaining Ranchus with the Ryunkin and small oranda together in a 75 gallon with a 406 Fluval and a Fluval C4 OTB. They get a water change every 5 days about 80%, I put in a heater to 72 degrees to avoid temperature fluctuations. The 2 butterfly telescopes are in the other 75 gallon. The newest one is very lethargic, but is still eating. I am treating with API General Cure. The telescope who was picked on when it first came is doing very well. He gets more comfortable and active each day. Same set up on this tank filteration-wise as the other 75 gallon. My water chemistry has never read above 0ppm for ammonia and nitrate. The pH of our tap water is high, about 8.2. I would gladly take any advise you have. I realize I probably made a lot of mistakes, and I am heart-sick that 3 such beautiful fish died in my care. I would like to keep the fish I have for a long time. If you've gotton this far, I thank you for your indulgence and patience.