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  1. Thank you all so much for your kind words and sympathies. I really appreciate it. My heart is heavy, looking at the empty aquarium and not seeing him there.... I can't quite believe it. He's been with me for so many years, and I looked at him and enjoyed him every day.... It's a big empty spot now. But I know he's at peace and not in discomfort anymore, which is a blessing for him. fantailfan1 - Actually, I did the same thing. I had my mom sit with him and watch him, because I couldn't stand it. She's the one who told me that the underside of his gills moved every once in a while, but his body was perfectly still. Sounds a lot like what your husband told you. Since our guys didn't move or splash around at all, it must be pretty peaceful. My sister is a vet tech and I called her while it was happening, and she said he was probably in a deep unconsciousness. Thank you all again. I'm sure I will miss my Mo-Mo for quite a while, but life will somehow go on. Not many people really understand how much you can love a fish, but you all do, and I appreciate your support and compassion. God bless.
  2. I just did it and I'm sobbing up a storm.... Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers, and pray that Mo-mo is at peace and in heaven swimming strong and healthy again.... - Is it normal that he seemed to take a breath every once in a while for maybe 20 minutes? We added more of the water/clove oil mixture hoping it would complete the job, and it's been a while now since we've seen any movement. Even when the underside of his gills moved slightly though, his body did not move at all. Does it make them unconscious basically? He seemed peaceful. Thank you all for being here and for helping me through the years. Mo was SUCH a fighter! I love him so so much! <3 Please keep us in your prayers. Thank you. I just did it and I'm sobbing up a storm.... Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers, and pray that Mo-mo is at peace and in heaven swimming strong and healthy again.... - Is it normal that he seemed to take a breath every once in a while for maybe 20 minutes? We added more of the water/clove oil mixture hoping it would complete the job, and it's been a while now since we've seen any movement. Even when the underside of his gills moved slightly though, his body did not move at all. Does it make them unconscious basically? He seemed peaceful. Thank you all for being here and for helping me through the years. Mo was SUCH a fighter! I love him so so much! <3 Please keep us in your prayers. Thank you.
  3. Hi, Some of you may remember me from several postings about my beloved goldfish named Moe. He has not been doing well for a long time, and now he is just hanging on by a thread and not happy or comfortable at all.... I absolutely hate to think about it, but I think it's finally time to help him pass away. I want to do it in the most humane way possible, so I am here to ask for your help in knowing exactly what to do. I saw the pinned post about euthanizing, and I want to use the clove oil method, but I have to know exact measurements, etc... Also, in that post, it is recommended to use clove oil and vodka mixture, but some other places I have heard you should not use the alcohol because it's harder on the fish. Please give me some specific directions on what to do, making sure it's the most humane, painless method possible. I don't want to cause any suffering. He has suffered too long already, and I probably should have done this a while ago, but I just haven't been able to bring myself to do it. However, it's just to much now and I know it's his time. Thank you so much for your help. And please pray for me as I grieve this loss. Moe is about 14 years old, so I can hardly imagine life without him. ~ Jill
  4. Do you mean 0.1% salt? How do I figure that out? It's a 20 gallon tank.
  5. I don't know for sure.... , but I want to ask the question in case I need to know what to do when the time comes. Mo (aka Mo-mo) is not doing well... He's laying completely upside down on the bottom of the tank almost all the time now, and can't really swim. I've been giving him metro meds, which seemed to be helping at first, but not anymore. Like I said at the beginning of this post several months ago, he's 13 years old, and maybe close to 14 now. I have a feeling it's old age, and may be near the end of his life here with me. I can't even stand to say it... After having him for so many years, and seeing how strong and what a fighter he is, it's just too hard to think of losing him. However, if he doesn't improve, I may have to think about helping him pass on humanely. I know there's something you can use, like clove oil, right? I'm just sooo afraid of hurting him and making him struggle. Can someone please give me some clear information on how to do it in the most humane way possible, when that time comes? He has lost quite a few scales, and I'm wondering if it would be too painful for him if I use the clove oil. Can you please let me know if it's painful, or what they feel? I don't think he has any quality of life anymore, but he's so strong, he just won't give up. What should I do? Thanks for any help and advice you can offer.
  6. Hi again, My goldfish Mo has been hanging on and doing okay for the last couple months. Not great, but okay. Now .... he's worse again. He's extremely bent/curved, and very weak. He lays completely upside down on the bottom of the tank a lot of the time. I just ordered some metro meds and pro gold from goldfish connection. When I gave him Metro meds a couple months, it seemed to help somewhat. I will take the water parameters as soon as I can and post them. My main question right now is, how long is the medicated food okay to use? I ordered it probably 5 or 6 months ago, and am wondering if I can use some of the old before the new comes in the mail. I want to give him some good food that might help in the meantime, before my order arrives. Please let me know how long you can keep and use medicated food. Thank you!! I love Mo-mo so much, ... I don't know how much longer he has, but I want to do as much as I can for him. ~ Jill
  7. Today it has been 4 weeks he's been on the metro meds. He's about the same. A little better than when we started on metro meds, so that's why I hesitate to take him off of it. But I wanted to ask what the maximum length of time should be for them to take metro meds? If I need to stop now, what should I feed him next? Peas? Or Jump Start? Or something else? Thanks for your help!
  8. Nitrites - 0 Nitrates - 40-80 (It's really hard to tell the difference in the color variation on the test card) Ammonia - 0 (maybe very slightly green tint, but not as much as .25 pH - 7.8 or 8.0 I did not test the tap water. Should I do that?
  9. He seems more floaty again.... When I came into the room where he is this morning, he was laying upside down on the bottom of the tank. My heart totally flipped.... Then when I tap on the glass and look at him, he starts moving and swimming around a little. So I felt a little better. But, now I have left the room and come back two or three times, and every time I come back, he's laying upside down on the bottom again,... but then he starts swimming when he sees me. What should I do? I'm leaving for work in a few minutes, so I'll see how he is when I get back. Do you think I should do another water change? I just changed about 40-50% of the water on Monday night. Should I start feeding something else, other than metro meds? I think when I get home, I'll test the water parameters again, since it's been a while since I did that. Thanks for any ideas you have.
  10. So they can be on Metro for more than 14 days? ** QUESTION: I just came home to find the ziplock baggie that had the metro meds in it on the floor, empty, with a hole chewed in it! I think our little dog Shane must have gotten into it and eaten it!! There was probably only 2 or 3 tablespoons in there. Do you know if it could hurt him? What kind of antibiotics are in it? Please let me know if it could harm him at all. He's a chihuahua/terrier mix and 23 pounds. Thanks! P.S. I still have some other metro meds, so I could keep feeding it to Moe if you think it's okay to go longer than 14 days.
  11. He's about the same, but does seem to have more energy and strength, and not quite as floaty, compared to when he started on metro meds. I can't do a video right now, but will try to do it tomorrow. What should I feed him? Keep going with metro meds or start something else? Thanks.
  12. Today was day 14 of the metro meds. Should I stop now, or does it hurt to feed it longer than the 14 days. If I stop, what should I feed him next? I have some Jump Start, so I could use that. Or should I do peas again?
  13. Starting yesterday he got floaty again!! I don't know what's going on with him. It's like the water change made him sit flat on the bottom and get weaker, etc... And now he's back to his floaty self. He is still eating the metro meds, which is good. How would the water change affect him like that? And I wonder why he stays so floaty or always goes back to that...
  14. How often and how much should I change the water? Should I do it more often and less amount of water, to keep the ammonia in check and to try to lower the nitrates more? Maybe smaller changes more often would be better? If so, let me know the amount of water to change and how often. Thanks so much.
  15. It looks like the pH for the aquarium and tap are about the same, I think it's 8. On the regular pH test it's 7.6, and on the high range pH test it looks like about 8.0. The ammonia from the tap looks close to 0. It's really hard to tell exactly, it looks like maybe between 0 and .25 So I think I did everything now, right? Let me know if I'm missing anything. Thanks.
  16. The nitrites are clearly 0, so that's good. Should I test the pH too? Do you mean to test all of the parameters with the tap? Or just the pH? After I do the pH, that's all that's included in the test kit I have - nitrates, nitrites, ammonia, and pH. Is that enough, or should I buy something else that tests other things too?
  17. So far I've tested the nitrates and ammonia. Nitrates look like 40 - 80, somewhere around there, and ammonia looks like .25 I don't know why the ammonia looks like it's definitely 0.25, with a greenish tint. It has always come out as 0, with a more bright yellow color. Could this be because I'm feeding him quite a bit of metro meds? And all he was eating before was frozen peas? I'll check the other parameters and post as soon as I know...
  18. I changed about 40-50% of the water last night, because I still have not gotten the nitrates down to where it should be. Now when I checked on him this morning, he is laying on the bottom and breathing very slowly. I find it strange that he even can lay on the bottom when he has still been quite floaty, and when he's in a relaxed position, he is still nose down and tail up. So I don't know what's happening and I'm worried about him. It seems like maybe the water changes make him feel worse, at least temporarily. I'm hoping this is temporary and maybe because of the water change last night? What would cause that? I did about 40-50% water change and I added 2 or 2.5 ml of Prime. What do you think is happening? He's been eating the metro meds. I haven't fed him yet today so we'll see how he does. But it looks strange to see him sitting/laying on the bottom. Let me know if you have any ideas. Thanks!
  19. He's about the same. Maybe a tiny bit better as far as energy goes. But at least he's not getting worse. He seems to really like the metro meds. I ordered some Jump Start too, so I could give him that when he's done with the metro meds. Thanks for asking and caring about Moe!
  20. I got the metro meds yesterday, and gave him his first feeding of it last night. Here's hoping for the best!! Today he did a very long stringy poop. Does that mean anything? Anyway, just wanted to update you on what's happening and let you know he started the MMs. I have a question - is it okay to feed anything else while feeding MMs? I know the directions say not to, but I wonder why and if that's really important. I think he might miss having his peas. Let me know. Thanks so much for your help!
  21. When I get the metro meds from the member sending it to me, how much do I give him each day? I don't know the specific feeding instructions for this medicated food. Could it make him more floaty? Also, what is the difference between medi gold and metro meds, and why is metro meds being recommended over medi gold?
  22. No, what is that? And where can you get one?
  23. Is there anything I can do to help him right now? He's even more floaty and keeps flipping over.... Usually he can keep himself still, nose down, in the corner, but right now he can't seem to stay balanced or in one spot. But he is moving around and trying. Should I tie something to his tail to keep him in a horizontal position? Maybe I'll try feeding him some regular pro gold and see if that weighs him down somewhat... Let me know what you think.
  24. Where do you get liquid prazi? And how much do I use and how many days, etc.... I want to know the specific directions for treatment, but I don't know for sure if I will do it. I just don't know how much to do because I don't know how hard it would be on him. I fear the treatments being too hard on him and possibly killing him, which I don't want to do! What do you think? How hard would it be on him, at his age and in his condition? Also, how hard would the metro meds be on him? It's so hard to know what to do and what will be best for him.... I'm ordering the metro meds from a member on here, who has some leftover after treating their fish. I'm hoping it will get here by Monday or Tuesday. How much of that would I feed him each day? Should he have other foods too, like peas? Right now, he seems to only want peas and doesn't do well when he eats pro gold. Thanks for your help.
  25. Yes, he is still floaty and head down. He really has a hard time swimming at all, because when he tries to swim he just flips over upside down, belly up, and stays in that position for a while because it's hard for him to turn himself over right side up. Poor guy... And he has that kink or bend in his body with an enlarged area on his abdomen that he's had now for about 2 years, but it has gradually gotten worse. You can see it on the video I posted. Anyway, maybe I'll try the metro meds... And what about the other suggestions made? Like prazi or JungleAP? I don't know what JungleAP is or where to get it. Thanks so much for all the help and ideas. Mo still has some spunk in him and seems to want to fight. He also eats the peas I give him every night.
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