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  1. Hey everybody, I wasn't sure if I should add to this old post or make a new one. The tumor (or whatever it is) is still there on my fish. It has no gotten smaller, but maybe grown if anything. The fish doesn't seem to be in pain, but his tail looks bad and I'm noticing that now the rays descending from the tumor are growing weirdly and a hole has formed in the fin I have some new pictures. The quality still sucks, but I think I would have to buy a new camera to get better pictures since I'm just using my iphone. Please let me know if you have any new ideas or questions. I have no idea what to do. Maybe the "tumor" needs to be lanced? Maybe the fish needs antibacterial medicated fish food (not that he would eat it). Let me know what you think. My husband is basically saying I need to find a way to treat the tumor or euthanize my fish Not that it's his decision but I'm feeling a lot of pressure.
  2. Merry Christmas everybody! Although not a super merry xmas for my fish unfortunately. So here's the latest: I've done 3 iodine swabs on his bump/wound/growth and although he doesn't appear to be in pain, the wound has not shrunk or changed much. It looks pretty gross from the effect of the iodine on his slime coat, so I'm going to let him be and not swab him for a few days so I can see what the area looks like when the slime coat is fully regenerated. Then I'll get a good picture of the wound site. However, today I see that his other caudal fin (the right side of the fin) has split and the edges of the split look a little jagged and white. Also, he and the other fish seem to be twitching a little bit, like maybe there is something that is hurting their skin (?). I haven't added any medication or more salt so I'm guessing its from nitrates, but the nitrates in the tank are basically stuck at 5ppm. It's hard to tell if the reading is 5ppm or 10 because I'm using the API drops and the difference between 5 and 10 ppm is a faint difference in the shade of orange... However, I am changing about 75% of the water per week (over multiple water changes). Anyway, I'm adding a 3rd teaspoon of salt per gallon to the tank over the next 24 hours to help with the split fin hopefully. I'll do another big water change tomorrow. Let me know if there are any suggestions.
  3. wow! Thank you so much for the quick response Koko. His fins aren't clamped and he's acting pretty normal right now. The area of his tail fins right under the tumor/bump is mostly white and looks raw :-/ But if the iodine won't do actually burn him or anything then I think he's ok. Do recommend that I skip a day tomorrow and then do it again the next day? Shakaho's suggestion was daily for a week.
  4. Maybe I shouldn't mention my emotions in my posts. woops! The issue certainly isn't whether or not it bothers me - its the health of my fish. I'm just asking if this is how it's supposed to look. Shakaho, I assume you've done this to other fish. Is the 2% iodine tincture the right thing to use? Did your fish turn white in the spots you put the iodine? I'm really not trying to annoy you, I just want to know how to save my fish
  5. Ok so I did the first treatment with iodine today. Pretty nasty stuff! After application (first pic) his wound/bump turned brownish and the slime coat all turned white and started stripping off... Looks extremely painful. It looks like I poured battery acid on my fish and my heart is breaking for him. The second picture is from before treatment. If I do this iodine treatment everyday for the next week I feel like my fish is going to be dead. Can anyone let me know if this is looking right? I felt the bump today and it seems less like a fluid-filled sack and more like a there is a bone under the surface here, like maybe his tail bone is deformed. I don't know. The iodine I used on him was an iodine tincture, with 2% iodine.
  6. Thank you for the advice with using wet towels. It totally worked. He was flipping out (literally) until I set him down and put the towel on his face and then he laid still. I used a cotton swab to dab a few drops of hydrogen peroxide on the sore/tumor. He was only out of the water for maybe 30 seconds. I assume I was not supposed to let the hydrogen peroxide sit on the wound for any length of time as that would involve having him out of the tank for a while. So the hydrogen peroxide rinsed right off after I put him in the tank. I did take a picture but it literally looks like nothing is there. I'll post another one tomorrow if I can get a better one. He is now in the tank with his fins clamped :(, I'm assuming because the peroxide application hurt. I burst into tears as soon as I got him back in the tank - he's such a trooper but I know he's in pain. Quick question: if he has an abscess under his skin, will dabbing peroxide or iodine on his skin actually do anything? I just want to be clear that this is not an open wound as far as I can tell.
  7. Thanks for the quick reply and the suggestion! So I'll change 75% of the water today in the tank, take him out, get a picture, and swab his lesion-thing with hydrogen peroxide. Then tomorrow I'll take him out of the water again and do an iodine swab. Do you think I should do the iodine swabs every day for like a week? longer? Will this cause him significant stress to be taken out of the water repeatedly? Thanks for your help!
  8. Hello fabulous and friendly fish enthusiasts! I don't post here much but the last time I was having health issues with my goldfish you guys were able to point me in the right direction and my fish eventually healed thanks to your advice. Unfortunately I have a new issue. My ryukin has what looks like a tumor on the left side of his body right where the caudal peduncle meets the caudal fin. I had noticed a bump there pretty much since I got him about a year ago. I thought it was just a slight malformation because it didn't look red or sore, and never bled or anything. It was just kind of a weird shape under his scales. However, last week he was acting lethargic and stressed (as well as clamped fins and kind of tipping backwards), so I looked at him more closely and it looked like the bump had actually split open. I believe I was seeing raw tissue in the split opening. So either it split open from swelling or he scraped it on one of the rocks in his tank. I immediately removed the rock so now the tank has nothing in it but a round vase ornament and a fake plant. Then I did a 75% water change and slowly added 2 tspn/salt per gallon over the next 24 hours, and turned the temp up to 80F. Since then he has been behaving normally with no fin clamping or lethargy. BUT the tumor is still there and looks pretty gross. The split seems to have closed up but the tumor and the area of the caudal fins around the tumor has become opaque. The tumor itself looks kind of dark orange. In the not so awesome image below I have circled the opaque region in black and the tumor in grey. I can faintly see a few red capillary veins in the side of his caudal fin that has the tumor. Please let me know any suggestions you have. He is a big, beautiful fish and I'm devastated that he has this painful (I assume) problem to deal with. I thin its time to get them a 55 gallon tank but I'm assuming that living in a 40gallon tank isn't what gave him the tumor (if its a tumor). See water conditions etc. below. Maybe worth mentioning: After doing a water change the nitrates are always at 0, but by the time I do the next water change the following week the nitrates are up to ~5ppm each time. Test Results for the Following: * Ammonia Level(Tank): 0 * Nitrite Level(Tank): 0 * Nitrate level(Tank): 0-5 * Ammonia Level(Tap): 0 * Nitrite Level(Tap): 0 * Nitrate level(Tap): 0 * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines): 7.6 * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines): 7.6 Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API drops * Water temperature? 80F at the moment * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 40gal, about 1.5 years * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? Aquaclear 70 and Aqueon 50(?) * How often do you change the water and how much? 50% weekly with 75% one week per month * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? its been exactly one week since the 75% water change * How many fish in the tank and their size? 2, each fish is about 3.5 inches long * What kind of water additives or conditioners? AquaSafe Plus * What do you feed your fish and how often? varied diet of hikari lionhead sinking pellets, peas, blanched spinach/kale, rarely a boiled and chopped wax worm, sometimes algae wafers * Any new fish added to the tank? no * Any medications added to the tank? not currently * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank.Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. only salt - 2tspn/gallon, started one week ago. before that there was nothing in the tank but water and the AquaSafe Plus * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? the hideous tumor, a few visible veins in the caudal fin, opaqueness (almost looks like thickening or stiffening) of the caudal fin near the tumor * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? lethargy, clamped fins and tilting backwards in the water before starting treatment Thank you SO much for reading!!
  9. https://vimeo.com/221684749 there's another short video, where you can see the pattern of the spots on her tail fins I will try the salt. You're right, that has been the only thing to affect the infection. But if 1 tbsp/gallon didn't wipe out the infection I know salt won't be a permanent fix
  10. Hi everybody, I have an unfortunate update After doing the API Fungus Cure treatment the white spots have not diminished at all and appear slightly worse :-/ So that didn't work. I can rule out fungus. Now I also have the API Furan-2 medication, which is antibacterial. It sounds like it will wipe out my filter, but I'll remove some of the media before doing the treatment. Any thoughts about the fungus cure not working? Ideas how to proceed? I'm open to anything. I do have a video you can look at but the quality sucks, sorry. But you can maybe see in the video that the ranchu has white spots up her tail fins as well as behind her head and on each side of her body. https://vimeo.com/221361637
  11. That does make sense. Wow 100 gallons a day is a lot of gallons. You obviously are a very dedicated fish mom! I can definitely handle 50% weekly water changes, I just didn't realize people were doing that. Indeed the tropical fish tanks I've had have been cake compared to the goldies.
  12. Ok lets be done with that now. we're here to talk about fish, specifically fish disease
  13. Ok fabulous! I have amazon prime so I'll get the fungus cure powder tomorrow and I'll start treatment right away. I would be absolutely elated if it worked! This has been such a nightmare. I was so excited when I got the fish because I've always loved goldfish and haven't been able to afford a big enough tank until recently. Then I get these gorgeous fish and within a month one of them is clearly struggling with a really unsightly infection. And then EVERYTHING I try is ineffective. What a crappy, helpless feeling. Anyway, I hope I didn't hurt MJ's feelings. I just have really had it with these type of people on forums who seem to just be there to put people in their place and enforce rules. It's so unkind and unhelpful. Maybe I misunderstood her but the comments seemed rude and ego driven to me. But I don't know her and I'm sure she's actually a cool woman. It's hard to know anyone's real motivations over the internet.
  14. Sorry MJ, no time for imaginary drama. Anyway, back to my fish. I can't seem to find anything containing nitrofuracin green or acriflavine on Amazon Do you think the API fungus cure powder would be worth trying? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OIQE5C/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER I know I'm getting annoying, but I'm not intending to be a troll. PLEASE don't boot me from the forum until I can save my fish
  15. I really appreciate everyone's advice, thanks I just meant that I needed help ASAP, not after learning how to post the correct way. But I get it's easier to help if you see pictures.
  16. Thanks for the advice Koko! So the homemade food with gelatin needs to go? will do! As far as the anti-fungals, I will order some today and try them. I did try kanamycin in the food and also in their water and it didn't appear to have any affect. Also the pimafix didn't help. Shouldn't they have affected the spots if this was fungal? I'll definitely try it but let me know what you think about those other medications being ineffective. When I clean the filters I usually remove all the media and then suck up the dirty water inside the filter with a huge syringe. So no I don't dump it out but I do get most of the water out of the filter. I will try to get some better pictures tomorrow, but I really don't wanna take them out of their tank :-/ Maybe I'll do a video instead Thanks guys! any other advice would be greatly appreciated! or more concensus
  17. mjfromga, thank you for the reply! I apologize about the picture, I really do. I do not have an underwater camera, I just have an iphone and I don't have a clue how people get good pictures of their fish while they are swimming around under water. I just find it implausible that no one can give any advice without seeing closeup pictures of the white spots. Everyone knows that a lot of fish illnesses look the same, so what grand revelation are you going to have if you see a picture of my goldfish. Here how about this one: this is not my fish, but the picture does look quite a lot like what is on my fish's tail. My point here is that pictures don't solve the diagnosis problem. Guys, I'm not on here to socialize, or to join your community. I'm here to save my fish and if I'm able to do that I'm am very unlikely to post here again. So please please stop focusing on enforcing the rules of this forum and try to help me!! You know the conditions of my tank, you know what medications have had no effect, you have read my description of what is happening to my fish, so PLEASE STOP INSISTING ON PICTURES, and at least give me a guess as to what could help. You people are the experts and I KNOW that you don't make diagnoses by looking at pictures. I'm going to do the 50% weekly water changes, and I'm going to buy a bigger tank when I'm able to, but I need advice on how to kill the infection, not the beginners guide to keeping goldfish. Also, someone please educate me as to why giant water changes are needed when the water conditions are pristine. Again, I'm not challenging you, I will do the 50% water changes, but if the water changes are not needed to reduce ammonia, nitrites or nitrates, what am I doing them for?
  18. ok so those crap looking pics from my iphone are really the best I can do. Hey Sharon, thanks for the reply! I really appreciate it. Wow, 50% water changes each week, that does sound like overkill, but I'll give it a try since you suggested it. I'm confused though. If my ammonia and nitrites are 0 and my nitrates are pretty close to 0....what is the point of doing dramatically larger water changes? I'm not trying to be annoying here, but I'm a busy mom with a full time job and I didn't realize the goldfish would require a 40 gallon tank and huge water changes each week. I'll do it if you think that's what is needed to help my fish, but again, water quality is pretty much pristine, so why do I need to do big water changes. I'm not questioning your judgement, I just would like an explanation instead of directives. To answer your questions, I have a bare bottom tank, no substrate. I clean the filter media at least once a month and I do so by removing the media and then swishing it around and squeezing it vigorously inside the water I just removed from the tank (during a water change). If the media still looks really brown and dirty afterwards I throw it away and replace with new media, but I only do that with one piece at a time, not all the media at once obviously. I would LOVE more responses and second opinions. Are you guys seriously all changing 50% of your water each week? What about people with 100 gallon tanks? you're swapping out 50 gallons every week?! I find it disappointing that I've gotten almost no responses and that no one has mentioned any treatments. This is the fifth fish forum I've gone to for help and no one has been able to offer any advice beyond referencing basic goldfish caresheets. Is there seriously no one that has any advice that can help me?
  19. Test Results for the Following: * Ammonia Level(Tank) 0 * Nitrite Level(Tank) 0 * Nitrate level(Tank) under 5 * Ammonia Level(Tap) 0 * Nitrite Level(Tap) 0 * Nitrate level(Tap) 0 * Ph Level: 7.5 GH: 160ppm KH: 50ppm * Ph Level, Tap: 7.4 Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API, drops * Water temperature? 78 * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 30g, 8 months * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? 2x AquaClear 70 * How often do you change the water and how much? weekly, depends but its usually 15%, sometimes 30% * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? yesterday, 20% change * How many fish in the tank and their size? 1 lionhead ranchu 2", 1 panda ryukin 2" * What kind of water additives or conditioners? currently I use Prime (Seachem) but sometimes use AquaSafe Plus (Tetra), and lately I've been using Stability (Seachem) because I bought a new filter * What do you feed your fish and how often? Give the brand, type of food (sinking/floating pellets, gel food, steamed vegetable, etc.), and how frequently you feed each. oh geez, everything. I give them blanched strips of romaine, chard, spinach and kale maybe 3x a week. I give them some sinking algae wafers once a weekish, sinking hikari lionhead pellet food 1-2x weeklyish, and the other days I give each fish about 1 cubic centimeter of homemade fish food (blanched veggies, crushed pellet food, crushed algae wafer, babyfood, gelatin, kanaplex, antibacterial MedFinn food pellets), and I have given them chopped and blanched waxworms a few times * Any new fish added to the tank? none * Any medications added to the tank? the tank currently has 1 tspn of salt/gallon and a double dose of Prazipro * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. I'm going by memory and estimation as I kind of panicked and used a lot of medications and didn't use any long enough when the infection first started..oops 1. 1 tspn salt/gal with 80F water temp for almost a month - spots kind of diminished but still lingered 2. Melafix and Pimafix for two weeks - no effect 3. Prazipro for a week, and then another week a few weeks later - spots diminished but lingered 4. Ick/cure w/ methylene blue for about 2 weeks - no effect 5. Kanaplex with kanamycin by Seachem added to the homemade food - no effect 6. MedFinn for gram negative bacteria added to homemade food - no effect 7. MinnFinn which is hydrogen peroxide and periodic acid (?) - after 10 minutes of treatment my fish were clearly flipping out so I ended the treatment * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? white spots about 2mm wide, uniform in size and shape, form in lines on the tail fins, fish#1 also had a whitish growth along the top of one back fin, small white patches on her head and one of each side, and also a slightly bloody looking patch on her head which disappeared after a couple days. Fish 2 has only shown the white bumps. * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? not that I can tell **also I'm totally willing to share the garbage pics I took of the fish but I'm not sure how to attach pictures to posts
  20. Hey everybody, Thanks in advance for reading. I'll get right to the point. I have two beautiful goldfish and they both have some kind of infection which is causing them to break out in white bumps. I have had fish for many years and I take the care of my pets extremely seriously, like to the point of OCD. I'll let you know right now I have no pictures to share because the spots simply do not show up on camera. I took over 200 pics and none of them show clearly what the bumps look like (so frustrating). But I will tell you everything I can about the situation and I hope PLEASE PLEASE that someone will have some advice. I've had the fish for 6 months. They are both about 2 inches long and I have them in a 30 gallon, bare bottom tank. The tank is extremely well filtered with 2 aquaclear 70s. ph has been at 7.5 for the entire time I've had the fish. Ammonia 0, nitrites 0, nitrates below 5. All these parameters have been consistent. After a month I noticed a few of these white bumps on fish#1's tail. After another month there were many bumps on the tail fins. A few bumps/spots appeared on the side fish#1 as well as on her head, and I've seen something that looks like mild fin rot on her. These seem to be different infections but I don't know. The bumps are consistent in size, maybe 2mm across. This is NOT an ich infection. It looks nothing like ich and the ich treatments I've tried have not worked. After 6 months and many treatments attempted, fish#1's tail is covered in bumps, and now they have started to appear on fish#2's tail fins. I should mention the fish eat normally, swim around fine, show no signs of distress, lethargy or fin clamping. Treatments I've tried: - 1 tspn salt /gallon: no effect - 1 tbsp salt / gallon: cleared most white spots after a week of treatment, but they appeared again almost overnight after putting her back in the regular tank with no salt. * important point: the spots change between bright white and cloudy white, and almost invisible, but they seem to remain in place - Prazipro - Kanamycin - MinnFinn: had to stop mid treatment as the fish were very stressed - Melafix, Pimafix - increased tank temperature (82F) - 82F + 1 tbsp salt Unfortunately none of these treatments have had any lasting effect. None of them have actually had any real effect on the infection except the 1 tbsp salt / gallon and I think that only suppressed them. PLEASE let me know anything you think I should try. I seriously love these gorgeous fish, but if I can't figure this out soon, I feel compelled to euthanize them, which would absolutely break my heart into a million pieces, so please help!!
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