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  1. Looks like somebody used it as a fish tank, so you should be OK https://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R2RIO9YPM5DYGK
  2. Great point! In my case the pH is always as solid as a rock, out of the tap, or sitting aerated for days. My best guess is that it must be dissolved nitrogen? (since the oxygen test flatlines at zero). I am not a chemist, but I suppose it could be dissolved carbon dioxide (or a portion is), and the water is just sufficiently buffered to keep the pH stable.
  3. I think you're supposed to give it an extra day between dips? (Not trying to tell you what to do, but just to prove that I'm reading and paying attention, haha.)
  4. Well, she ate something, so that must be good news! I wonder what colour the inside of a goldfish's mouth is supposed to be? I have no idea! (I know that the inside of my mouth is red, and that seems to be normal for humans.) If her mouth is red, then does a little salt in the water help to ease irritation? Or maybe the Melafix/Pimafix products could be useful? But usually it's just clean water that's needed, and some time to heal. No need to complicate things unless absolutely necessary.
  5. Not sure if this helps, but I noticed this from another thread http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/index.php?/topic/105076-schedules-for-the-treatment-of-flukes-etc-using-praziquantel/
  6. The only cool thing I remember about my (pretty cheap) TDS meter, is when I dosed salt to 0.3% in the tank, and the TDS meter displayed 3000 (ppm). 0.3 out of 100 is 3000 out of 1000000! So I think it indicated that I actually dosed my salt correctly! I was pretty amazed by that, but maybe I have a small mind, haha.
  7. That is a very interesting observation! I didn't consider the "distance to the surface" as a measure of protection or satisfying their instincts to seek deep water. I may have inadvertently trained my goldfish to be so "domesticated" that he can't adapt to the "real world." I will add one other cautionary remark for large water changes -- watch out if you have well water. My well water tests to have a dissolved oxygen level of zero (undetectable). So I put the new water into large "bins" with an airstone for about a day prior to try to oxygenate the water to near tank levels. Also, well water can contain dissolved gases (because the water is under pressure?), and so this also allows time for the water to "gas off." I definitely had dissolved gases, because you could see bubbles forming in the water if it was just allowed to stand. I have no idea what this gas/these gases could be (carbon dioxide, nitrogen, ?). I could not detect any appreciable odour, although the gassing off could have been happening so gradually that my nose didn't notice the smell.
  8. I tested the water with my TDS meter, and got 66! What does this mean? Of course, there could still be lots of suspended solids in the water... are suspended solids bad? Shimmy's usual water is TDS 130, KH/GH 5/6. The pond water is TDS 66, KH/GH 3/3, which means the pond water is about "twice" as soft? (The TDS is half, and also the KH/GH are about half, assuming the KH/GH are linear measures?) I also tested the water again, and the pH was about 7.4 or 7.5. Same as last time, which is a relief. Temperature was about 76F (the thermometer in the TDS meter is +/- 2 degrees). I will ask to test the pond owner's tap water next, to see how the TDS/KH/GH differs from the pond.
  9. With any luck, and with the knowledge you already possess, your tiny babies will grow up to be... less cute, perhaps, but arguably with even more personality. Haha. I get the feeling that my fish thought, "Hey, if the water keeps dropping like this, then we'll soon be left high and dry!" But they seem to realise after a while that it's a water change, and it's not a leaky tank. Isn't that just it!!!!! Given how little I knew when I first started keeping goldfish, I think finding a goldfish forum like this one is one of the best gifts you can give your fish.
  10. I really miss those days. Now my goldfish is 14 inches long. He won't even fit in a 5 gallon bucket. I used to empty the water in my 140-gallon stock tank as low as I could before the fish started to panic, then refill, turn the filter on a while to mix it up, and then repeat. If we say that each time was a 70% water change, then two 70% water changes would be a 70% + (70% of the 30% left) = 91% water change. Which is the best I could do, if I felt really keen to make it clean.
  11. Conventional wisdom might say that gradual changes are always better, but my goldfish didn't mind large water changes after a salt (0.3%) tank treatment. After all, a salt dip at 3%, then back to fresh water (or even 0.3%), is undoubtedly more of a "shock" to the system, and most fish tolerate that just fine. How do people do 100% water changes? Wouldn't the fish be flopping around on the glass/gravel/sand? Haha. I suppose one could remove the fish temporarily, but that sounds like too much trouble/stress to do for every water change.
  12. The curse of Lou's sweet-tasting slime? I don't mean to joke, because it's all quite distressing. If he's "oversliming," then maybe it's parasites? A salt dip might slough off his slime coat, and then allow him to reslime afresh... or maybe the other goldfish will enjoy Lou's salted slime even more than his plain slime? Sorry, that sounded like another joke. Oh... and please disregard these comments, because I am not a mod, obviously.
  13. Thank you! In my short web searches I came across a link that mentioned the flukes might be only on one side, so to check both sides to be sure... sounds pedantic, but who knows. Also, it says to be careful about lifting the gill cover too much, because it's possible for bones to break (I'm cringing just thinking about it). http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?96462-How-to-actually-scrape-for-gill-flukes&p=1602635#post1602635
  14. I just visited to check Shimmy's status, and he's as active as I've ever seen him in the pond so far. He's nowhere as active as the other fish, but he's not hiding, doesn't look stressed, and doesn't seem to look like a goldfish who hasn't eaten for the last 20 days (total time he's been in the pond so far). So at least he doesn't appear to be deteriorating, and neither of his eyes appear swollen. I didn't net him to check up close, because I don't want to stress him further unless absolutely necessary. His right eye looks the same (i.e., completely covered over and an opaque pupil). Probably it's a waiting game now. The prazi has now been in for 2 days, and the Melafix for 4 days. If I see any improvement at all in his eye I could re-prazi after 7 days, say (I really don't think it's eye flukes). My current theory is leaning heavily towards blunt trauma to the eye(s) when I dropped him. I just hope he stabilises or recovers to the point where he's not completely blind. I want to send myself to prison for animal abuse, but of course I didn't do it on purpose. Just one of those ridiculous moments of pure carelessness, and Shimmy is paying for it. Next time I'll take my TDS meter, so that maybe I can get a better idea of what the water is really like. Thank you so much for all your help! I will now add "AOA" to my acronym library.
  15. Maybe you could help out with simple instructions for preparing a slide? What instrument do you use to do the actual scraping of the gills? My fish wriggles around so much it's almost as if I would have to use clove oil to calm him down first.
  16. Me too! They sometimes call that "old tank syndrome," maybe? What's the theory here -- are the nitrogen-cycle bacteria consuming KH, which then reduces the buffering capacity of the water? Also, for some reason the nitrogen cycle has a tendency to reduce the pH, so when the KH falls very low you get a pH crash? I found an article that suggests that there are not only beneficial bacteria, but beneficial Archaea involved in the nitrogen cycle. The forgotten domain of life! http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0023281 Oh! And I have a TDS meter... so I will check the TDS next time. That might shed some light on the amount of dissolved organics?? And maybe try to convince the pond owner to do a small water change? Or convince her to allow me to do a water change, since I am a willing slave for sure.
  17. Truly scary! Thanks so much for that. I will have a search. Exactly right. I actually researched that yesterday, but the chemistry is way over my head (even considering the relative simplicity of salt). If this is really true then the Hikari people should not be marketing PraziPro for marine aquariums (and it says fresh or marine on the bottle!). I will e-mail the Hikari customer support people. Couldn't agree more. Since you're so handy with scalpels and microscopes I wish I could send you a bottle of PraziPro to trial, but our treasured companions are not to be experimented on. We just have to try to make informed decisions and do the best for our fish. I must admit that I am running scared for a jar of the powder now. I'm currently using PraziPro without salt, but this is all very unsettling. But also good, because we all want the truth.
  18. This is good information to have. I am really impressed that hamanishiki is taking gill scrapings and looking at them under a microscope! I could not do this (too scared). It would be great if there could be some independent scientific testing of the efficacy of these products. Or still useful if the manufacturers would make such results available to assist in making informed decisions. As the planted tank people say for fertiliser -- don't pay for water! So I agree that a pure powder is going to be the best value. I got my 16oz bottle of PraziPro for about $30 in the US, and that treats 2000 gallons. I'm unsure what volume of water the powder treats for the same $$$. Of course, none of this matters if the liquid isn't as effective (or worse, ineffective). Again, experience is everything (to be clear, I have no confirmed experience with flukes). I also wonder whether people using the liquid would get "lazy" and not shake the bottle (it does say "shake vigorously" on the instructions). I remember spending ages being confused why my API nitrate test was showing undetectable nitrates (0ppm), until I discovered that you had to shake the second bottle. So I'm the first to put my hand up and celebrate my incompetence when it comes to following instructions. You are right, it's great that it is relatively easy to acquire these days! And affordability is key to give as many fish as possible a happy life.
  19. I spoke to a pathobiologist at my university, and I will try to relay what he said. Basically the premise is that this is pure speculation, since it's almost impossible to diagnose from a picture. 1. The left eye looks almost like it's "all pupil." So, almost completely dilated (no iris). Possible neurological damage? (I did drop him) 2. Hard to see if the lens of the right eye is affected, or something between the cornea and the lens. Possibly a cataract (don't know if they can form in 2 weeks, though). He didn't say this, but I remember reading that cataracts can form from blunt trauma (such as a fall). 3. If stuff in the eye ruptures, it would cause a strong inflammatory response, so the eye would swell. I don't see any swelling at all right now, but I should monitor for this. Any rupture would be sterile, but the leakage of proteins causes the inflammation. So, I guess, nothing could be done short of surgery in this case (would be very serious, like popeye?).
  20. He had a male common goldfish companion for almost 6 years, and then was alone for the last 2 years. Yes. Landlord said no fish, aquarium or otherwise (he was in a 140-gallon stock tank, indoors). Yes. I feared as much. shakaho: I'm sure he's eating, since there are always natural foods in a pond, I certainly hope so... shakaho: but clearly he isn't thriving in the pond. I have to agree with that. Even though it's only been 2-3 weeks in the pond, he hasn't yet adapted to the floating food. The other goldfish seem much more active. shakaho: After 7 years of constant temperature indoors, he may not adapt to winter cold. Funny you should say that. My original plan was to send him to California (someone with a pond said they could take him indefinitely) using a pet relocation company (they quoted me roughly $2300-$2900 to move him from Connecticut to California). But I left it too late to organise, and had to find another temporary solution. And then I dropped him, might have caused irreparable damage, so shipping him in his current state to his new home... well... shakaho: Do you know anyone who would keep him in an aquarium for you if you set one up for them? I wish I did. I certainly would be prepared to pay for the aquarium and everything, but there are no options as of now. shakaho: A pond that has not had a water change in years may be OK for fish that have lived there long-term, but highly stressful to a fish that has had cleaner water. I feared as much, but the water actually checks out OK. Sure, there may be other things in the water that I haven't tested for, but ammonia undetectable, nitrite undetectable, nitrate 5-10ppm, ph 7.5, KH 3, GH 3. His water before was a little higher in pH at 7.8, and a bit harder at KH 5, GH 6. I was concerned about high nitrates, but those concerns seem unfounded. shakaho: Actually, an established pond that has two koi and a large number of small goldfish suggests some of the fish formerly in the pond didn't adapt to declining water quality. I agree. I will ask the pond owner for more background about that. shakaho: I don't like to be a pessimist, but I don't like his chances in that pond. I understand what you are saying, and I feel the same sense of dread, probably magnified many times from the guilt of dropping him. I am really at my wit's end right now, and I can't think of any other options. My gut feeling was that the common goldfish isn't generally valued as a species, and I would have trouble rehoming him. I would pretty much do anything to give him a forever home, but the task of finding someone willing seems beyond me. I really appreciate the help -- thank you!
  21. PraziPro doesn't work with salt? I have personally used it with salt, but only as a prophylactic. I would be almost certain that if PraziPro doesn't work with salt, then praziquantel doesn't either, and there is no evidence for that. My understanding is that PraziPro is simply praziquantel mixed with a solvent (to help it dissolve). The ingredients are "Oxybispropanol (as an inert solubilizing agent) and < 5% praziquantel by weight." Here is the wikipedia entry for the solvent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipropylene_glycol Of course the instructions mention turning off any UV, and removing activated carbon (or stuff like Purigen, say), so that probably also applies for any praziquantel-based product.
  22. Thanks! He's never been sick in his life, and now, just before his 8th birthday (Sep 18), disaster strikes. It doesn't help that his dad (me) dropped him on the floor, of course. Poor Shimmy.
  23. Take my advice with a pinch of salt (haha), but here's a classic "Solid Gold" YouTube video that dissolves the powder with a special kind of soap It may well be that the powder eventually dissolves just fine by itself (given that so many people have success by just adding the naked powder to their tanks). Not a product endorsement, but I use Hikari PraziPro because it's already dissolved for you (it's a liquid). I buy the 16oz bottle, and every 1oz treats 120 gallons. There may be smaller bottles. I have no idea if it works, because I have always used it prophylactically.
  24. Greetings all. Sadly I am in desperate need of your help. Kind of an unusual one, so I will try hard to be concise and brief. I have a 7-year-old, 14-inch comet goldfish with eye problems. His right eye looks very bad. His left eye does not look normal, although it's not as horrible as the right eye. Here is his right eye: Here is a link to a cropped pic of his left eye: http://giardia.mcb.uconn.edu/~tim/Shimmy/lefteye.jpg And here is a bunch of pics for more info. The ones labelled **BEST** are what I consider the most informative. http://giardia.mcb.uconn.edu/~tim/Shimmy/ 49-second video of him swimming a few days ago (he's the largest goldfish in picture). His tail is pretty beat up, and split in about 3 places. The top part of his tail fell off when I dropped him (read below). The shredding is new (since he moved to the pond, but could obviously be a hangover from being dropped). Tail is not red anywhere, just ragged. He is noticeably slower than the other fish (but he's always been serene for the majority of the time, with occasional bursts of speed when he wants to). My take is that it looks like the lens of the eye is the part most affected. That is, it's not external trauma. His left eye does not look normal, and perhaps the same thing is happening to it as well. He is in a pond around 2000 gallons. Right now there is Melafix in the pond (2 days prior to the pics) at the dosage of 1 cup of Pond Melafix (the more concentrated kind, Melaleuca 5%) per day. I read that eye flukes exist, but that seems very unlikely? Nevertheless, I have dosed the pond with a full 16oz bottle of PraziPro (praziquantel, 1oz per 120gallons) in case it might be parasite-related. I dosed it after these pictures. My guess is that it's a bacterial infection. Gram positive? Gram negative? I tested the water yesterday and it appears to be fine, albeit a bit softer than his usual water. There are two large koi in the pond, and maybe 20 or 30 goldfish (all much smaller than Shimmy). The saddest thing is that I moved Shimmy to a pond at the beginning of this month. In moving him I dropped him on the floor. He did not seem stunned, and was behaving normally after I put him back in the water. In the pond he has never been observed to be eating. Floating pellets are fed by the pond owner. Shimmy has always been fed sinking food, and he seems to be having a lot of trouble adapting. So I am not sure if he has eaten anything this month, or if there are other sources of food in the pond. Basically the landlord said I could no longer keep him in his 100-gallon stock tank, indoors. Obviously I would isolate him and treat if I could, but I am reluctant to impose further on the pond owner that has taken him in. My options seem like these: 1. give the Melafix and Prazi a week to work, see if there are any changes. If he gets worse I could maybe get a vet to come and inject him with something like Baytril? Obviously waiting could lead to permanent damage to his eyes if that hasn't happened already. 2. find somewhere I can take him to isolate him for treatment. I can't bring him home (landlord), and this option seems close to impossible (no fish-friendly friends to help out). That's why I mention the vet injection in option 1 (since I can't isolate him). Test Results for the Following: * Ammonia Level(Tank) 0 (undetectable) * Nitrite Level(Tank) 0 (undetectable) * Nitrate level(Tank) 5 or 10 (lighter shade of orange on the API scale) * Ammonia Level(Tap) no water changes in pond (well water) * Nitrite Level(Tap) ditto * Nitrate level(Tap) ditto * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) pH 7.5, KH 3, GH 3 (Shimmy's usual water was pH 7.8, KH 5, GH 6) * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) no water changes in pond (well water) Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API freshwater master test kit (drops) * Water temperature? unknown, definitely warm, likely about 25 Celsius (77F), 30+ Celsius maximums recently for weather, other fish appear very active. Shimmy's normal temperature is 74F. * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 2000 gallons, established for years * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? Some kind of lava rock filter and a waterfall * How often do you change the water and how much? never * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? never * How many fish in the tank and their size? 2 large koi, 20-30 6-inch goldfish, and Shimmy * What kind of water additives or conditioners? none * What do you feed your fish and how often? unknown * Any new fish added to the tank? yes, Shimmy * Any medications added to the tank? melafix and prazi * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. none prior to melafix and prazi * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? all fish other than Shimmy appear healthy * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? assumed not eating My heartfelt thanks for any assistance! tim
  25. Praziquantel is a great option as a prophylactic in any case, as it's very safe. As for the coming to the surface and splashing, my goldfish does it every time after a feed. I assume that he's adjusting his swim bladder. He frequently makes a mess that I have to clean up, but because I love him I don't get mad. I call him the fabulous splashpuppy! The bottom-sitting part is where the prazi might be worth trying. I use the Hikari product, because it's easier than dissolving the powder, and as an OCD freak I hate mess (did you hear that my splashpuppy?!).
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