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  1. I have had the Marimos for 3 yrs. I got the first ones when I decided to get goldfish. The ones that feed heaviest on them are actually are the ones with the least problems. Sometimes I think they mostly just enjoy tearing pieces off and watching them float up to the filter intake to keep me busy later. Forgive me if I give the impression I play fast and loose with the medicines. I have years of background in 4 legged animal care with rescue and shelter animals working closely with vets facilitating their care and I know not to short course medications. The prazi pro was given as 7 day treatments with a large water change and a redose at day 3 of the treatment. I am just nervous of a swim bladder infection. I went through that with one in January and it resulted in a misshapen swim bladder. I had x rays done to confirm that and a vet specializing in fish in Kansas City drew air out of the bladder twice and it was to no avail. Don't care to go there again. I have quarantined the fish I am concerned about and added tri sulfa to her tank and will give her a 7 day course. I always siphon the bottom everytime I clean which is usually daily. It is a bare bottom tank so there is no buildup under any substrate. I change the media in one filter one week and the other the next week on a rotating basis with a few rinses in between. I will surely heed the advice to just feed the Soilent Green and leafy veggies. I suspect a few days of pellets is what blocked that fish up to start with.
  2. I will try a larger water change. I am just really worried that the constipation episode the one had may be leading into something else for her. If it has triggered a bacterial episode I am afraid the others could be getting it. I do not like to medicate but she has never floated at the top and it has been two weeks. A couple of years ago I had one that never floated and when it did something similiar the tri sulfa had him back to normal in a couple of days. Like this one he had floated for an extended period but he was upside down. Do you think it possible that a really bad bout of constipation could trigger a bacterial issue in the swim bladder? In the beginning it seemed apparant she was bloated and constipated but now she seems to be fairly well freed up although I wouldn't say 100% for sure. I haven't medicated the tank yet. I really don't want to do that and keep hoping to see some improvement in her. I am also torn rather to quarantine her or do the whole tank if I do. Thank you for assisting me!
  3. Thank you Momma! Sorry I did not post in the right place! * Ammonia Level(Tank) 0 * Nitrite Level(Tank 0 * Nitrate level(Tank) 5-10 * Ammonia Level(Tap) 0 * Nitrite Level(Tap) 0 * Nitrate level(Tap) 0 * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 8.0 Will test KH and GH this evening. They were good last time I checked but it has been a long time and I do not remember where they were at exactly * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 8.4 It settles down to 8.0 after sitting for a couple of hours. I always let the water sit overnight before adding to tank. Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API drops * Water temperature? 70 * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 55 gallons up 5 years * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? Two Marineland Emporer 400's and one Magnum HOT * How often do you change the water and how much? Avg 15 gallon change per day. * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? Yesterday, 15 gallons * How many fish in the tank and their size? 4 butterfly tails. 1=4.75 inches 2=3 inches 1=2inches * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Prime * What do you feed your fish and how often? They free feed a lot on giant Marimo Moss Balls and I feed normally 1x daily Hikari pellets or Repashy Soilent Green with occasional treats through the week of frozen brine shrimp, peas, orange slices(once in a very long while) * Any new fish added to the tank? No * Any medications added to the tank? No * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. December 2014 Fenbendazole for camelanus worms Jan- Feb 2015 Tri sulfa, salt, quick cure (not all at the same time) for Costia Every couple of months a Prazipro treatment with the last one ending last week of Sept approx. * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? Exterior of fish show no problems * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? Sitting on bottom except one that always stays on top and one that has recently started resting at top. Other 3 are lackluster and tending to stay at bottom. They are breathing normally. I am going to the store and will be back soon if I don't respond quickly to any posts I TYIA! Where is spellcheck?
  4. I apologize for not introducing myself earlier. I found this great site a couple of years ago and have been a lurker. I am a moderately experienced fish keeper of many years on a hobby level. For the past 3 years I have went back to the fish that always make me smile, my Goldies. I have 2 crown pearls and 4 butterflytails. The tank I am discussing is the butterflytails. One fish I have had 3 years and the other 3 have been with me 1 yr. The oldest is near 5 inches nose to tail, two of the others are 3 inches, and 1 never grows and is very stunted but I love him. They are in a 55 gallon running 2 Emporer 400's(with new impellers every 6 months) and a Magnum HOT for filtration. I change 15 gallons of water at least every other day and usually once a day. I have about 20 fist sized Marimo moss balls that they graze on steadily. I also have 2 large airstones running. My water quality runs 0 on ammonia and nitrites and around 5 at the highest on nitrates. My ph is 8.0. I only use charcoal once in a long while, maybe for a couple of days every other month or to remove medication. I know the tank is on the small side but I have a lot of time on my hands and keep the parameters good. It is bare bottomed. Due to the smaller butterflytails arriving with camelanus worms a year ago everybody was dosed three time with Fenbendazole at that time. Having not added any fish since I have hoped to not have any major internal parasites in my setups. The camelanus worms were eradicated along with a suspected roundworm or two from someone. Following that treament I became acqainted with Costia which was extemely unpleasant. There have been no major problems since Jan. Every month and a half to two months though the Goldies start acting lackluster and not grazing on the moss balls although eager to eat their normal food. They will set on the bottom listlessly until they see the food dish. I feed Hikari pellets and Repashy Soilent Green with occasional frozen brine shrimp and orange slice. I suspect a fluke of some form perhaps or a close cousin although they never flash and treat at that time with Prazi Pro (full treatment, 2x strength last time) and they improve for a while. When all is well they are very active, grazing moss balls, begging for food, and interacting with each other across all levels of the tank, except for the stunted one who stays top water when not feeding. This is "normal" for him. 2 weeks ago the big butterfly started floating upright at the surface with her butt up and head down. She has never done this. I fasted the tank, fed cooked peas, fasted again. Her poop was stringy and was lacking much color initially although I have seen a little more color now but it is still somewhat stringy. She does seem to feel better when she poops and will go down and take a look at the moss balls anyway. Her appetite is great for her normal food. I strongly feel this was a constipation problem initially as I had fed pellets 4 days in a row waiting on a new jar of Repashy. She does not compete well with the others and is hand fed normally so she gets a lot of soilent green as it works well for this cut into strips. I treated the tank and fed 3 servings of Repashy laced with Metrodiazonale 2 days apart about a week ago in case of Hexamita also. Now everybody is starting the lackluster act and the big one is still resting at the top when not actively swimming. She has always been a bottom rester, actually sleeping laying on the bottom. In addition another one is a little head over heels belly up in his swimming although he does not stay that way. He does that sometimes but not usually for this duration. Something isn't correct and I have pretty much decided to treat the tank with a course of Tri Sulfa. I am well stocked with it as I have found it to be very effective in the past on a variety of things although it always takes my filter out. I am prepared to bind the ammonia with Prime, change water like crazy, and I have 2 big bottles of Tetra Safe Start for when it is over. I am also going to add a TBSP of salt for every 5 gallons. I am hopeful it may prove effective against whatever keeps returning and treat what I think may be an internal bacterial infection in my big one from being constipated if that is possible. Sorry for such a long posts. If anyone sees any terrible problem with my plan or have any ideas on what causes my fish to go through their spells every couple of months please let me know. Perhaps my main purpose for posting is hoping someone could tell me a good ratio of Tri Sulfa powder to Repashy to feed so I can do more then just bathe them in it. Thank you everyone who took the time to read my post! Best Regards, Barbara PS: Can't seem to find spell check. Sorry for any misspellings.
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