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  1. So, update: he's still not any less floaty and he is getting annoyed with the lack of food (considering I have to keep trying to put vaseline on him every day and he thinks I'm trying to feed him) Is it OK to feed him or should I still continue fasting? Also... Is there an alternative to vaseline that I can put on him? It's nearly impossible and i've only gotten it to really stick once
  2. Sure I appreciate all of your help immensely, I pray that something will work. So today marks day 1 for his treatment and I will keep you posted on any changes
  3. Sorry I wasn't clear, that is what I meant. He's always floating at the top (I said he's never not doing it, so, I see how the double negative was confusing lol) Like, he's always floaty so I'm not thinking that the fasting will make him any less floaty since he was like the the whole time he wouldn't eat too.
  4. Make sure to use Epsom Salt (magnesium sulfate) and not salt (sodium chloride). The Seachem bottles come with a measure that is attached to the lid. 2 measures is the recommended dosage (for 10 gallons) on the bottle of Kanaplex and the upper recommended dosage (for 10 gallons) on the bottle of Metroplex. So, it's 2 measures of each medicine after each water change. Fast him for 2 days, then if he is less floaty, offer him some frozen bloodworms. If you can safely mount the heater in the tub, gradually raise the heat to around 76 F to get his metabolism moving. If not, the heat isn't mandatory for the treatment. Understood. As far as "floaty" goes though, he's never... Not floating at the top if that makes sense. Every once in a while he will swim down but he immediately goes back up. Should i just not feed him until I see improvement? He has been fasted when he was refusing to eat and I never noticed a difference in floating. (he was just more lethargic)
  5. That all sounds good! I actually had to leave the house tonight but I will be back tomorrow to transport him to the qt again and set it up with the air stone and salt. When you say two measures, do you mean double dose or what? (I'm sorry, I've been up a while so my comprehension isn't the best lol) Am I continuing to fast him throughout the treatment? Also, should I heat the water at all?
  6. Ups says either tomorrow or Friday for the antibiotics. I will start them the moment they come in His poop as I've seen it coming out looks like a solid green, likely from the peas. I haven't seen the solid poop at the bottom of the tank however. I think his is breaking up easier than normal, because usually I can see more. OR it could be what I think is extra pea debris, which means it's definitely not as solid as it used to be. Should I push harder for him to eat the blood worms? Should I look into making a gel food for him to try for the time being, since it will likely stick together easier? I'm willing to try whatever you think will work.
  7. I'm sorry I haven't updated, my phone hasn't been able to take a video of him :/ he never moves when I go to take it. He doesn't move that much honestly... He can swim himself down a foot or two but as soon as he stops wiggling he just floats back up. He's eating peas mostly. I tried some frozen blood worms but they kind of broke apart when he tried to eat them so it was hard to get him to eat enough with that. One thing I did notice- every once in a while he will spit out shreds of peas? I don't know why. Rarely he will also spit out a whole chunk. I don't know why he's doing it but he leaves pea debris trails almost (and then the blood shrimp collect them into a pile.) I think he is eating most of it. I am not feeding him much, maybe 4 peas max at feeding and I do feed them slowly.
  8. Sure, I'll post everything tomorrow when i do the water change. once the medication arrives, how long is the treatment? And... if it doesn't work, i mean, do you think it's even worth it to try anything else? I'm willing to try anything, but I'm not sure if i can handle another month with him being this way... and i'm not sure if he'd want to be either.
  9. I ordered from DFS today, i'll just have to wait a bit for it to come in I moved him back into the main tank for now, since the tub was in my bf's bathroom and it was getting inconvenient. I'm changing the tank water at 50% twice a week, vs my regular 50% once a week. He's at least attempting to swim in the big tank, but i noticed something. His back tail seems to be bent slightly, and he is leaning towards one side. (He has developed sores along that side now) he's not like, sideways, but he is leaning. I'll try to get a picture later, but do you think something could be wrong with his tail?
  10. bumping this up again As for goldfish harnesses, I heard that they're bad for the scales. However, would rubbing vaseline on tubing help with it not accidentally rubbing off the slimecoat? I don't want to have to euthanize him :/
  11. Someone recommended that to me as well, I'll pick up some frozen bloodworms. I think suna is male, but i'm not the best at judging. I would really like to try some medications since i've only really tried maracyn and salt. Now that he's eating i think it makes things much easier for treatment.
  12. I have been feeding ALMOST exclusively peas the past month, other than some frozen algae/spirulina tablets. When attempting to get him to eat, i was using those, tiny little algae pellets, his old omega 1 goldfish food...etc. he did eat peas when i did the water change. haha i tried SO HARD to scrub it off as you can see.... it didn't work. now I have to wait for it to grow back all the way while it's patchy and ugly.
  13. So i wasn't able to get a video because my phone can't upload it, but here's some pictures The original tank (Please excuse the algae wall) the other goldfish is in there The best picture i could get of his poop. He just made those, they're Tan/yellowish like the floor tile so it's hard to see some of his sores A close up
  14. Please copy & paste fill the following form and fill it out to the best of your ability when requesting help for Goldfish Problems: Test Results for the Following: * Ammonia Level(Tank) 0 * Nitrite Level(Tank) 0 * Nitrate level(Tank) 0 (he is in a tub that just got a water change) * Ammonia Level(Tap) 0 * Nitrite Level(Tap) 0 * Nitrate level(Tap) 0 * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.5 * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.5 Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? It's the drops test from api i think? I don't have the package information anymore lol * Water temperature? 68F * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? this is a 20g tub, it is filled to 10g right now, and it does not have a filter. his tank is 30g and has been set up for a year and a half * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? penguine power filter, the one with 2 bio wheels, up to 70G * How often do you change the water and how much? 50% daily in the tub, weekly in the tank * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? today, 100% * How many fish in the tank and their size? there is one fish in the tank itself and he is a 3" oranda. Suna is not in the tank right now, he is in the 20g tub alone * What kind of water additives or conditioners? prime, double dosed. * What do you feed your fish and how often? they've been on peas for a month now * Any new fish added to the tank? no * Any medications added to the tank? * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. : Pimafix 3 times for "fungus" that was not fungus. Salt 1% 3x, Maracyn 2 to the quarantine container completely taken out now. * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? He has sores on his underbelly and fin from being exposed to the air. I put vaseline on them and he is now able to move his fin again, his sore does not seem to irritate him now. * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? He CAN NOT sink at all. Another update: I was able to hand feed him!!!! I have been trying ALL WEEK. Just a bit ago i put vaseline on his sores to help him and he wiggled around at first, but then calmed down and let me hold him underwater to put the vaseline on. He doesn't seem to be as wary of me or my hand now, and I was able to push food by his mouth and once he finally realized it was FOOD I was giving, he ate some. I fed him 4 squished peas.
  15. (I'm not sure where the edit option is) UPDATE: I'm in the process of doing a 100% water change right now to get rid of the maracyn and currently he's being much more active while waiting in a 5g bucket. He still can not submerge himself but he's at least attempting to move around now, which is better than he has been the past few days. (Seriously. This morning i would have thought he was dead if i didn't see his gill movements) I will put vaseline on his sores before i put him back into the tub of water.... maybe this is a sign that there's more hope than I was anticipating.
  16. My ryukin Suna has always gotten sick really easily. A few months after I got him, he developed a bump on his head, along his side, and on one of his fins. It has never moved, or gotten better, or grown or anything. It looks like lymphocystis. He has been treated for fungal infections many times with no change in that. It's been over a year since he grew them. He's also always been a little floaty. Around january 14-16th, he started to float up to the top of the tank and not float back down immediately, just resting there. I fed him peas exclusively afterwards. About 2-3 weeks after, he started bottom sitting which is when i went to goldfishkeepers and asked around for treatment advice. I ordered up some medicated food (which is STILL lost in shipping) and quarantined him in a smaller tub with salt to see if maybe it was water pressure affecting his swimming. it wasn't. He stopped bottom sitting after a while and exclusively floated up on the top. He started losing his appetite around 2 weeks ago. On the 16th, I put him into a 20gal tub and treated him with maracyn II. (there is no filter, it is changed 50% every day with extra medicine added to make up for the water change) He pooped once the entire time (it was just regular, green poop from peas) and has not eaten since then. It has been over 5 days now and he has not pooped, and he has stopped swimming almost entirely. He does not even pay attention to food anymore, he doesn't budge at all. The only time he moves is when he floats over one of the airstones (and moves away from the bubbles) and when i stick my hand in the tank. He swims away when he sees me, and I think it's because he's afraid i'm going to move him again or touch him or something (he CANNOT stand being touched, he has always hated it. It doesn't matter what it is that's touching him, he flips out and swims away). I can't hand feed him because he swims away and he's completely uninterested in food anymore. He's been floating up for so long that he's starting to develop sores on the bottom of his stomach, and one of his bottom fins is completely unusable to him now because he floated up even higher overnight and it is bright red with sores. I don't know what to do anymore, he can't turn himself over at all at this point and I'm sure he's in a lot of pain from moisture loss on his stomach (I moved a little bit of water over it and he tried to swim away and jerked around in the water from the water touching them. I know they hurt) What can I even do to help him? All day i've just been thinking that euthanasia is the only option I have for him since he won't eat anything at all, and he's just so lifeless. I don't know what to do. I never thought I would even be in a position like this. He's only 2-3 years old, but I can't stand the thought of him suffering. If anyone has any idea of anything i could try to treat him with, I would be so grateful to know. ...If it's as hopeless as I'm seeing it as now, please tell me so I can at least give him a painless death rather than dying of illness. (Water quality in his tank, while he was in there, was always 0 ammonia 0 nitrite, 0-25 nitrate. In the 20gal tub, all readings have been 0. PH is 7.5 like always. temperature is 68F and has always been. His normal tank is a 29g aqueon. He is about 8" with tail included, 5-6" body. His only tankmate is an oranda that is about 3" who is showing no symptoms of illness or stress.)
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