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    I have an area in the yard that already has walls - the back side is a concrete/cinder block retaining wall and the front side is a garden retaining wall (approx 1 foot high)  I would dig a few feet below that wall.  Basically I'd like to dig out part of the garden and put the pond in there behind the garden wall.  

     

    I don't know how this area looks.  A picture would help.  I strongly recommend a minimum of 2-3 feet of access on each side of the pond if possible.

    This is what I'd like to do -

    - epdm liner yes

    - skimmer on one side yes

    - waterfall filter box on opposite side of skimmer not adequate filtration you might consider a barrel filter or two that sit behind the water fall or somewhere else with a pipe to the waterfall. - hopefully a bog filter in it if possible  have you considered aquaponic grow beds which have lower maintenance and provide better phytofiltration than a traditional bog filter?

    - gravity bottom drain yes that goes into the skimmer no, to the settling tank. (we're in a drought zone so dumping that water is a waste and isn't an option)

    But do I do a settling tank as well?  Yes, to remove solid waste that will foul your biofilter.   Do I do an aerated bottom drain?  Probably not, but the aeration will improve the flow from the bottom drain to the settling tank.  I'd rather not because of the extra supplies I'd need to purchase and I'd like to stick to a budget, so if the water movement from the waterfall will be enough that'd be great (I can also add another small pump I already have with a venturi injector into the pond to help with circulation/oxygenation if necessary)

    How big should I make it?  The width will be at a maximum about 3.5-4 feet because the space is limited but can be as wide as 20 feet.  I can only go about 2.5 feet into the soil (plus the 1 foot of wall so 3.5 feet deep total) BUT I can always raise the retaining wall if needed.  20x4x4 gives you 2400 gallons which should handle your proposed fish load and give you room for the others that will turn up.   :)  I suggest raising the sides to 18-20" which makes sitting on the edge very comfortable. Koi people say their fish need four feet of water, which may be an exaggeration.  You do need 3 feet of depth to keep predatory birds from standing on the bottom and devouring the fish.

    Any tips or advice from experience you would give someone building their first in-ground pond?  Draw plans.  Submit them to a forum or forums for critique.  Draw new plans. submit...  Continue until you have all the bugs out.  Then build.

    I will be putting into the pond - 4 juvenile Koi (I may need to re-home a couple as they get larger but for now they stay with me), 8 adult pond goldfish, 2 fancy goldfish and a few babies (which I plan to re-home eventually but I'd like the space for them just in case I end up keeping them) Figure a minimum of 250 gallons per koi and 20 gallons per goldfish.

     

    Think of a water flow like this.  Pond > bottom drain > settling tank (in a filter pit) > pump or biofilter > biofilter or pump > bog filter or grow bed > waterfall > pond.  In parallel: pond > skimmer > biofilter > pond.

     

    I'll try to find some good diagrams for you.  They aren't easy to find.  

     

    I have not considered a grow bed but I'm open to alternatives so I'll look into that.

    I've done up a (very) basic diagram...I could easily replace the bog with a grow bed if decided.  I can always make up some space by transferring plants currently in that location to other parts of the yard too if I need to.  I'm going to estimate 15 feet long instead of 20 because I'll need some space for all the equipment - so I should have 1600+ gallons in the pond.  I'll definitely need the depth since there are herons in my area so I'll probably go the full 4 feet deep.  I also might need to consider a cover.

    When I go over to the new property later I'll get a couple photos and accurate measurements.  If it doesn't work I'm sure another location will work.  This is just a beautiful spot because its next to the pool right near a little sitting area (which means it'll be behind a safety fence where my son and dogs can't mess with it when I'm not there, haha)

    http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b565/stacie1/pond_zpsaj0dgiya.jpg 

  2. I'm no good with ponds but am excited to see what you and the pond pros come up with! Lots of members here have experience in this and it sounds like you're on the right track.

     

    Thanks!  I'm excited too but a little nervous since I'm not really sure what I'm doing.  Yikes!  Hopefully I can figure this out...worst case I'll have to set up a temp home for them while I build.

    Welcome back!!!!

    Thank you!

  3. Hello!

    I used to frequent this board a while back but its been probably about a year since I've been here.  I hadn't realized how long its been since I had changed anything on my pond or in my tanks!

    Anyways, we just bought a new house so need to move my outdoor fish.  They're currently in an above ground but since we have some time to move into our new house before we have to move out of the old one I want to take the time to build an in-ground pond.

    I could definitely use some advice or opinions!

    I have an area in the yard that already has walls - the back side is a concrete/cinder block retaining wall and the front side is a garden retaining wall (approx 1 foot high)  I would dig a few feet below that wall.  Basically I'd like to dig out part of the garden and put the pond in there behind the garden wall.  

    This is what I'd like to do -

    - epdm liner
    - skimmer on one side
    - waterfall filter box on opposite side of skimmer - hopefully a bog filter in it if possible
    - gravity bottom drain that goes into the skimmer (we're in a drought zone so dumping that water is a waste and isn't an option)

    But do I do a settling tank as well?  Do I do an aerated bottom drain?  I'd rather not because of the extra supplies I'd need to purchase and I'd like to stick to a budget, so if the water movement from the waterfall will be enough that'd be great (I can also add another small pump I already have with a venturi injector into the pond to help with circulation/oxygenation if necessary)

    How big should I make it?  The width will be at a maximum about 3.5-4 feet because the space is limited but can be as wide as 20 feet.  I can only go about 2.5 feet into the soil (plus the 1 foot of wall so 3.5 feet deep total) BUT I can always raise the retaining wall if needed.

    Any tips or advice from experience you would give someone building their first in-ground pond?

    I will be putting into the pond - 4 juvenile Koi (I may need to re-home a couple as they get larger but for now they stay with me), 8 adult pond goldfish, 2 fancy goldfish and a few babies (which I plan to re-home eventually but I'd like the space for them just in case I end up keeping them)


    Thanks in advance!

  4. So my son's pre-school has gone through a couple glass tanks recently due to little ones being a little too rough around it resulting in cracks.  They are wanting to buy an acrylic tank now to avoid this problem...

     

    I was looking around for one and not seeing much available that didn't have a solid color back wall...any suggestions on where we can find one that is clear on all sides so the kids can see through from whatever side they're standing at?  If you know of somewhere with really good prices too, I'd appreciate the info!

     

    Thanks!

  5. Ahh, very interesting!

     

    I actually don't know who their parents are, since these babies came to my pond as eggs from another pond.  All I can say is that I absolutely love them.  I don't know why you don't see these around, they're adorable.

  6. I have a few of these super round-bodied little guys...all have a single tail.  The rest of the babies are long comet-like bodies.

     

    I'm curious what these are?  They almost look like fat little oranda bodies.  Are they just called mixed-breed goldfish or do they have an actual name?

     

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  7. As some of you know I am setting up a river tank and I am just wondering what aquatic and terrestrial plants I can use for this tank :) thanks

     

    I've always liked papyrus, pachira, and umbrella plant.  They give off more of a jungle/tropical rainforest feeling though so I suppose it depends on what you're going for.  Calla lilies and iris do well in shallow water or moist water's edge so if you want some color other than green they might work as a good transition between "land and sea"  I've also heard many types of ferns do well.  I would think many of the native plants to the pacific northwest USA would do well since they are so often in moist, if not wet, soil.

     

    I've also added pothos to my tank and it thrives!  I literally broke off some leaves from the plant and placed them in and the roots that sprouted out of them were insane.  It seems really hardy.

     

    Really, I thought or orchids hate having wet feet :hmm

     

    I always knew orchids as air plants...the roots typically grow above soil or rocks with just enough below to anchor themselves.  So I think you're right about the water...but hey, some other species are known to be terrestrial and do well in water so ya never know but I suspect these ones would likely just rot in too much water.

  8. I've been feeding the goldfish formula.  I can't compare it to any other NLS formulas as its the only one I've tried, but compared to other brands, its leagues ahead.   My fish just gobble it right up and their energy and coloring is beautiful! 

  9. If I was built like that, I can think of a million and one things I'd wear first...

     

    You're telling me.  I haven't been that skinny since I was...15 maybe?  haha  And have never looked like that, although I make a mean goldfish kissy face.  That girl has nothing on me there.   :goldfish:  :rofl2

  10. Hello friends,

     

    Euthanizing has always and will always be a very sensitive topic. unfortunately, one of my fish needed to be Euthanized. i checked our site and realized there was no video demonstration on how this is done. so, whilst i was contemplating if i should euth my fish and as he took a turn for the worse, i decided that i would make the video to demonstrate how i managed this successfully & humanely.

     

    Please understand, there are many illnesses that can be treated, many fish that look like they are knocking on death's door and depending on what the health issue is, some fish can and have been brought back to good health from these conditions with the dedicated help of our wonderful Moderating Team and our Experienced Members/Friends. please do seek help by posting a thread before you decide to euthanize your fish.

     

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    The following video demonstration shows a fish being sedated and then receiving an anesthesia overdose. Please do not play the following video if you feel that seeing a fish being Euthanized will affect you in any way.

     

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    I had to euthanize my first fish last night...a little juvie that I had from fry-hood.  His spine was crooked, and I kept him regardless since he had such a silly little friendly personality.  He had figured out how to swim and did pretty well, though looked silly.  He ate well and socialized plenty and was a beautiful pearl white with one black spot on his head, like the reverse of Black Beauty the horse.  I didn't mind his disability and neither did he.

     

    Unfortunately, as he grew larger his spine got too crooked to swim straight anymore, and he was unhappy. 

     

    I just wanted to thank you, Helen.  Your video demonstration made everything that much easier.  By being able to watch how things should go prior to, I didn't worry I was doing it wrong and hurting him.  He wasn't sick, so it took a bit longer, but it was peaceful and calm.  I would have been a nervous wreck otherwise, so again, thank you.

  11. Honestly, if you think your fish is lonely, you're probably right.  We each know our pets better than anyone else, and I think our instincts when it comes to them are pretty good.  Hence why many of us "know" our fish are sick almost before they are really showing many medical symptoms...because we know their behavior, their personality.  The signs of it though will likely differ from fish to fish as it does in humans.  Some may become depressed or lethargic, others may show signs of anxiety, while others may actually show physical symptoms of stress such as torn fins, clamping, bottom sitting etc.

     

    I find it very curious when the human species think that other animals are not capable of the same emotions we are.  The understanding of how/why we have emotions is lacking, so without that information as to how, it seems a stretch IMO to say some other creature does not. Science has shown them to be far more intelligent than previously expected, and I suspect that the emotional capabilities of fish is included in that.

     

    There have been some interesting findings in recent years, if interested :)  Google "goldfish sentient" and a handful of scientific articles pop up with conclusions that include emotional abilities likened to those of humans.

     

    Also, interesting article I came across stated that the province of Quebec has proposed a bill sometime in the last few days that includes heavy animal cruelty fines and potential jail time for ALL animals, including pet fish.  It also includes flushing live fish in the bill and criminalize it.  The direct quote from the Minister of Agriculture is "if you have a goldfish, you take care of it.  Don't get a goldfish if you don't want to take care of it.  [A]nimals are not things.  They are sentient beings and have biological needs."

  12. I buy almost all of my plants locally at a shop that boasts the "largest selection in town" requiring them to carry a nursery license...so that doesn't really help you :(  Have you checked out any of the aquarium plant seller reviews in the review section?  There are a few ebay sellers that have been given some pretty good reviews and still currently have stock.

     

    http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/index.php?/forum/136-online-vendor-reviews/

  13. Something like this so the duckweed stays contained, but so I could just life the tray out of the water to release the duckweed to the rest of the pond.  As long as the mesh at the bottom was small enough the fish don't get in there or end up hurting themselves.  Maybe use a small pool noodle foam thing so it would always stay at the right height to the water so I don't have to worry about water level getting too low and the plants drying up?  

     

    http://www.planetnatural.com/wp-content/uploads/mesh-flat-lg.jpg

  14. Usually I keep duckweed in my planted tropical tank, and scoop out a bit every few days or so to give to the goldfish fry out in their pond (I guess they're not really fry anymore, but that's beside the point, lol)  I've noticed since the weather has warmed up here my duckweed growth has increased, and I recently scooped out a bunch of it and put it into the main pond to see if the fish in there would like some.  Needless to say they DEVOURED it.  Since then, every time - about once a week - I add a batch of it from my tropical tank into the pond, and since my fish out there love it so much I want to be able to keep up with that.

     

    Obviously they have a voracious appetite, so I don't think I'll be able to give them as much as they want, but I'd like to be able to give it to them a few times a week.  Unfortunately, my tropical tank won't keep up with that.  I'm wondering what the best way to get the fastest growth would be?  I have a couple ideas, wondering if anyone would like to weigh in on them, or offer one better?

     

    1.  add some sort of basket into the pond where it can grow and the fish can't get to it

     

    2.  have a "fishless" bucket/tub outside filled with the water I siphon out of the goldfish tank - my concerns would be mosquitoes etc.  Water gets pretty warm here in the summer and from what I've seen, it really likes/grows best in warm water.

     

    3.  set up some sort of water garden with a small pump to keep water moving and fertilize the water?

     

    4. don't bother feeding it to them more than the tropical tank can supply :)

     

    I know most tropical people fight to get rid of duckweed since it can be such a nuisance, but I'm sure other goldfish people like it as well since its added filtration and the fish love it so much.

     

  15. The one thing I've been curious about...if anyone has used any sort of pool-type pump and vacuum to actually just vacuum their pond.  Cutting out an opening higher up in the pond that would double as a skimmer and hooking up a pool-type pump that can be turned on and a vacuum plugged into it interests me.  I would be more confident in my work not leaking when I'm not home and draining the entire thing...

     

    Something like this.  The pump hooks up to the bottom of this and a round plate attached to the vacuum plugs the skimmer box and causes the pump to suction from the vacuum instead.

     

    http://www.poolandspastuff.com/Graphics%20Olympic/Skimmers/ACM-19300%20Iso.jpg

     

    In a square and flat bottomed pond, it seems like it would be effective, no?

  16. I was wondering if you tried your pumps in other outlets?

     

    I did :)  The one pump plug was actually burned.  The others looked ok but they don't work.  Luckily when my husband was at the store and was talking to an employee about outdoor equipment the employee said the plug we were using should not have done that and told us to bring the pumps and plugs back.  We haven't yet, so hopefully customer service agrees with him when we actually do.  :) If they don't, oh well, but its a nice offer in the meantime.

     

    I have to tell you that,  even for someone as handy as you, putting extra steps into the filtration system with a retrofit bottom drain and a settling tank, requires learning some new things.  Those koi people with koi ponds with real bottom drains,  assorted mechanical and biofilters,  complex plumbing, skimmers, etc.  have already dealt with keeping balance in a complex system.  So they can put a retrofit bottom drain, a settling tank, and a pump container on a stock tank and have it working perfectly in an afternoon.

     

    I built a small "model" aquaponics system, primarily to meet all of the challenges before I built a larger one.  I have a flow of retro bottom drain to radial flow filter to pump bucket (all gravity)  then pump to biofilter  (then gravity again) to grow bed to fish tank.  I knew about the phenomenon called "drop down" which says that if you have a series of connected containers  and flow water into the first one and out of the last one, you will have a lower water level in each successive container.  I also knew that bends in the pipe would slow water flow.  In spite of this, I needed about three weeks (some of it spent pouting) figuring out how to keep the pump from emptying the pump bucket.  It works fine now.  

     

    Before you build, make up a detailed diagram and description of your plan and I can help debug it.  

     

    I have been working on the start of a diagram, and have a rough sketch up of a set up, but haven't even attempted to work out specifics yet.  I have to actually go outside and play around to get an idea of where I need things to sit and fully expect to have to redo things a few times. :)  I'm sure there will be some degree of trial and error, but I will definitely post a diagram for input from others when the time comes.    I have some time to figure it out since I won't have the actual time to build it for probably a few weeks.  Luckily I already have a bunch of stuff in my garage I can play around with before using the materials that would actually go onto the pond, so I might get some input along the way.  Worst case scenario if it doesn't work...I open a ball socket on the bottom drain, fill the settling tank, fill the pump bucket, (let it run until the pump bucket is full) close the ball socket, THEN turn on the pump and wait until it drains, turn off the pump, repeat as necessary.  Not the most efficient way, but if it doesn't work otherwise, not the end of the world either.

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