Jump to content


Regular Member
  • Posts

  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by goldensgram

  1. Here is the picture of my tap water nitrIte test:


    I guess the distinction between 2.0 and 5.0 isn't that precise. It's darker than 2 and lighter than 5.

    I was hoping to get some insight on WHAT TO DO about my tap water related to water changes. Already feeling pretty stupid, definitely don't need any help in that department :stupid:

    FantailFan1, I have really appreciated your actionable, specific, non-critical advice. Is it safe to do water changes with my tap water? If so, should I take any particular precautions? What about vacumming the pea out today?

  2. Thanks FantailFan1...that helps!

    7a water testing:

    ammonia 0 ppm; nitrrIte 0 ppm; nitrAte 0 ppm (but deeper goldenrod color); pH 7.2

    Golden can definitely swim. She tried to get her pea this morning but it sank to the bottom too quickly. She nibbled at the trailing residue and took a few 'dives' down for it but could not get lower than the top of the tallest plant (about 1-2" beneath water level). Should I feed her flakes since she's stuck at the top or while that exacerbate SBD?

    I will open a thread on D&D to see if I should use the PraziPro or something else for possible SBD. If anyone watched the video of her swimming on 9/11, please tell me what you think. I will repost in D&D. ALSO she's getting her 'mohawk' back. Her top fin is standing up. Will post a pic later today.

    I think I may have turned a corner on the water issues but I AM SO SCARED TO DO ANY WATER CHANGES!! If my tests stay in safe levels, should I:

    1) change 10% 1 week from last change and use tap water (my tap has extremely high nitrItes DARK PURPLE)

    2) change 10% 1 week from last change and use spring water (LFS did not have any RO water when I checked this week)

    3) change 10% 1 week from last change and use filtered water (carbon Brita filter; water tested .25 ppm for nitrItes)


    change 25% or more using 1 of the 3 water sources?


  3. Thanks bodoba! I was able to gradually lower the temp to 70-72 degrees now with cranking our AC, keeping the light off, removing the hood when we are home and chilling the water with frozen bottles of treated water. It has stayed in this range. I was researching water pumps today, not sure if I need circulation at the bottom of the tank?

    Just got back from church and she is still floating up near the filter and slightly moving her fins. When I left she was on the other side at the top, so maybe she swam over *wishful thinking*

    My local pet stores did not have the treatment for flukes but if I order it, will I also need some other container for her? I only have this one 10 gal tank.

    Test results:

    Ammonia 0

    NitrIte 0-.25 (little bluer than teal, but not lilac)

    pH 7.2 - 7.6

    NitrAte 0

  4. Back home and Golden is just floating near the top, occasionally wiggling her body. I have seen her take a swim a couple times but if I couldn't see her breathing, and if she didn't wiggle her fins, I would swear she is gone. I don't know if she'll recover. I don't think we are fit for the life of aquatics. My dog isn't nearly this hard to keep alive. I haven't done this much staying awake, sleeping on the floor next to the aquarium, documenting notes, and interventions since my Dad passed away last year. I'm tired. I don't think we'll get anymore fish. Does anyone know a website where I can sell all of this stuff I've bought?

    12 noon test results:

    Ammonia 0 ppm

    NitrIte 0 ppm

    NitrAte 0 ppm

    Thanks KJ! My daughter is almost 5-- I'm sure you can tell <3

  5. Aha! I will post all of the details and pictures once I get my daughter to school but I think we are on to something FF1. I tested my tap water today. No ammonia but the nitrItes were just about 5.0 ppm!! I then tested the water we drink for nitrIte (filtered in a Brita pitcher) and it was .25 ppm.

    When Golden came home my tank had been prepared with a Comet feeder fish and everything tested fine. When I did the water change on Sunday 9/8 that's when nitrItes spiked. The prepared water I'd used on Sunday was conditioned with Top Fin. I didn't start using Prime until Monday 9/9 when I had the water tested at the pet store.

    Golden was fine before Sunday. Her fins were erect and she was happy until I changed the water. I think my tap water may be the issue. I will post pictures of the test kits and all the details later but even after a 40% water change and 5 mL of Prime at 7am today, my nitrItes were at .25. It was .5 before the water change at 4:30a today.

  6. Some pictures of Golden from today. I tested for ammonia around 6:30p & added 1 tsp of salt to her aquarium. She swam around pretty vigorously, although a few times she seemed to be going head down or head up and/ or floating backwards :ill , but then settled back into her corner. I made a little video of her swimming today which is definitely different than normal (SBD?). Once I get the video off my phone, I will post. I was planning to test for nitrIte one more time tonight. I've changed a total of 6 gal today (4 gal @ 6:30a & 2 gal @ 3p). If nitrIte is higher than .25 ppm, should I use Prime or do another water change? If the latter, how much should I change? And if I change water, do I add more salt in proportion to what I change?

    Most recent test results:

    Ammonia 0 ppm

    NitrIte .25 ppm

    NitrAte 0 ppm

    pH 7.6



    She's making a little poo in this pic, excuse her :yikes

  7. Thanks FantailFan1 and Shakaho! I am going to set up a photobucket account so I can post some pictures. I have a short video of her in action when she first arrived home. She is usually pretty active and always searching...it's tough watching her just sit in the corner. But my spirits are lifted when she takes the aquarium for a spin every few hours...she goes all in, not even worried about the bubbly filter action...regular ol' Michael Phelps!

  8. Thanks everyone for the input! I may need a bit more hand holding on what to do next. Do I add the salt for the fish's benefit if my nitrite test says 0 after performing the water change and adding Prime?

    And general care for a sick fish:

    - Should I keep the light off during the day on hot days? (i.e. which is worse for her overheating or not having a light?) Is 75-80 degrees too hot for her? (maybe that's how I got the ammonia eating bacteria)

    - Should I feed her? She definitely still has an appetite?

  9. Sorry bodoba, you had other questions.

    No I didn't quarantine the fish or treat it. I am not experienced in either and have just this 1 fish, so did not think to quarantine it (vs. adding a new fish to other fish)

    The fish is about 1" long body with maybe 1/2" more tail fan.

    Thanks for the hug! I NEED EM!! This fish is awesome (and no offense but I am a dog lover so fish have not been my thing)...she has great personality...I hope we don't lose her.

  10. I just tested nitrItes at 12:15p and it came out blue! So it's less than .25ppm, hopefully it's really 0. Ammonia is still 0. (Not sure how to attach pictures to this forum)

    She was up and swimming around for awhile ~20 min and has now returned to bottom sitting. I don't know if fish are like humans (this is my first fish EVER!) when we start feeling better, we get active, then our bodies say rest??

    bodoba, I thought the tank was already cycled since I had 2 tests with ammonia, nitritem nitrate all 0, but now that I have read that cycling can take 4-6 weeks, I'm not sure it was finished before I brought her home.

  11. 12:15p she came out of the corner to eat 1 pea. She ate it all right away. She is back bottom sitting and her fins are still clamped. I've gotten the water temp down to about 72 degrees and left the hood off and only room light all day today. Just tested for ammonia, 0. nitrites remarkably are between 0-0.25 (blueish on the API master test).

    So what do I do now to nurse her back to health? Things I have read include keeping the water cool and adding a pond pump to increase oxygenation. Thoughts?

    I will keep testing the water (probably need to keep check on nitrAtes if I have cleared the nitrIte hurdle, huh?) Do I only perform a water change if the levels go off the charts again or do I keep doing large daily water changes?

    Does anyone recommend the API aquarium salt as mentioned in the master test pamphlet for high nitrItes?

  12. Here are the details:

    10 gal tank set-up on 8/18 with a HOB Top Fin filter that came with starter kit
    1 Ryukin added 9/1 after 2 positive water tests
    1st water change Sun 9/8 10% aged with Top Fin water conditioner
    Since my 1st water change, I have had elevated nitrItes. I have done 25% water change between Sept 8-9. The last 10% I did was with Prime rather than Top Fin water conditioner. Recently (since 9/9 after work) Golden has been hanging out near the bottom of the tank behind the plant where she sleeps. (We only have 3 artificial plants, no live) I watched her from 10:30a - 2p yesterday and she will swim around occasionally (but vigorously) only to return to the corner near the bottom. She also seems to have shallow breathing.
    I don't think I've been overfeeding her as we feed her once per day 3-4 sinking pellets. I gave her peas on 9/4 (pellets every other day) and have only given her peas since she started this lethargic episode. She eats everything readily and does not leave food at the bottom of the tank. She will still swim over to eat and find food even with this lethargic episode.
    Other than elevated NitrItes (Ammonia and Nitrate levels, pH has been normal) my other concern is the temperature of the tank. It stays 75-80 degrees. We have air conditioning, but her tank is on the top floor where is stays warmer. I have closed the blinds to reduce heat during the day and her tank is not near a window. Right now as I type I am floating a frozen bottle of spring water with Prime in the tank and removed the hood. I have the standard incandescent lights that came with the starter kit and noticed yesterday that the hood gets pretty hot on top. I will go later today and buy some fluorescent lights.
    So my questions:
    - Should I keep the light off during the day on hot days? (i.e. which is worse for her overheating or not having a light?)
    - Should I keep performing daily 10% water changes until the nitrItes normalize or will I mess up the nitrogen cycle? Or should I add 1mL of prime to the aquarium daily?
    - Should I feed her? I was thinking I would fast her today just in case the elevated nitrItes are due to overfeeding
    - Any other recommendations???
    I hope this forum can help! The pet store people are of limited help and many forums & websites contradict each other. I found Koko's to have the most consistent advice. I have read 3 Goldfish care books based on postings in your forum. I have not been able to sleep and have been running around town getting twice daily water tests (last night I purchased the API master freshwater kit so I can do my own testing). Attached is the result of the nitrIte test as of 4:30a today. I added 1 mL of prime directly to the water this morning.
    Thank you,
    Golden's Grandma


    Haven't slept! After reading your article on cycling, I did a 40% (only had 4 gallons prepared) water change at 6:30a. Golden swam around quite a bit and scavenged for food (more typical behavior). I noticed she did go up to the top a few times as if looking for more oxygen. I did not turn on the aquarium lights today, but left lights on in the room. After about 30 minutes she was back bottom sitting in her corner with clamped fins, but her gills were opening quite a bit more than last night when it almost looked as if she wasn't breathing at all. I will test the water again in a few hours.
    I forgot to ask earlier about bacteria supplement. I used 10 mL Top Fin to start my tank and the bottle says use 5 mL with each water change. People/ forums say do not use it again, one guy in pet store said only use it when I change the filter cartridge (my filter is all one piece so I can't save any good bacteria). I don't know what to do, but my logic would say if my nitrItes are high and I need bacteria to convert it to nitrAte, perhaps I should be adding it???
    Thanks so much!
    Golden's Grandma
  • Create New...