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  1. Hi all, I just moved and had to shut down the cycle on my tank. Is it possible to reuse the bio rings? I know it won't help sort cut cycling but I would hate to throw them away and but new stuff if I don't have to.
  2. Fantail Fan - Thanks! I am actually getting ready to make a move (relationship break up is part of why the fishes have not had the best care recently, have not been at the shared apartment daily until this week) so I will probably wait to test the KH and try the overnight sitting test once I move. I guess the reason I assume it isn't rapid is because if I test the pH before and after a large water change, the number still comes out 6.0. But that still seems weird to me, shouldn't it go up a little at least? Koko - I keep forgetting to photograph my dang tank for you! I will really try to remember today. It's pretty basic though. Gravel in the bottom (about a half an inch) and not much else. Filter media is a sponge and two bags of Bio-Max Rings in the HOB; two vertical sponges, a level of sponges, two levels of Bio-Max Rings, and water polisher pads in the Fluval 306. The fish are doing a lot better now. Been changing the water daily since Saturday and I tested the water yesterday. Here are the results: pH: 6.0 Ammonia: 2.0 ppm Nitrite: 0 ppm Nitrate: 80 ppm Going to keep up with the daily changes until I move this weekend. As an aside: any tips for a short move or ideas in setting my aquarium back up to be healthier for the fish? I am thinking I will ditch the gravel. They like digging in it but it gets very, very dirty.
  3. FantailFan - I don't think it was a rapid drop because I have always had issues keeping the pH up in this tank. For a while I was using Gold Buffer and that seemed to help but not much. I'd say the pH in the tank tends to be a bit higher than 6.0 but not by a lot. Are there other ways to keep the pH up? I know that is something that I was struggling to deal with before other things in my life blew up and got be distracted. I don't know the KH. How would I go about testing for that?
  4. Just noticed the nitrate wasn't filled in in the original but it was definitely 160 ppm. I will go to 30% changes daily for a while. Should that help? Do you guys have any idea what the white fuzzy stuff might be?
  5. Hi and thank you! I did the water change and their behavior is noticeably better. Here are the parameters now: pH: 6.0 (This is weird with how high the tap water is.) Ammonia: 1.0 Nitrite: 0 ppm Nitrate: 80 ppm Am I right in assuming I should keep doing large water changes for a few days to get the ammonia down to 0?
  6. Here is one picture of the guy who died: http://imgur.com/BJm9wNV Here is one picture of the two surviving fish: http://imgur.com/KO2sF1S And here are the tap parameters: pH: 7.6 Ammonia: 0ppm Nitrite: 0ppm Nitrate: 0ppm Thank you guys!
  7. Oh yes, sorry I meant to include that I'm testing the tap water and getting pictures now. The test kit is the API Freshwater Master Kit.
  8. I'm hoping you guys can help me figure out what is going on with my fish. Several weeks ago I started to notice they had what appeared to be like a white, fuzzy coating one them. They were down at the bottom of tank with clamped fins and not eating very well. I thought this was a bacterial infection and treated them with Melafix. This seemed to work temporarily and then they started sitting at the bottom again with clamped fins showing the same fuzzy coating on their bodies. I did a big water change and tried to start the Melafix again thinking perhaps I just hadn't completely knocked out the infection. Well, over the night one of the three died. He looks very different than any other dead fish I've seen. He is very pale in color and covered in the fuzzy stuff. The other two do not seem to have much on them but are just listless in the bottom of the tank. I'm really, really worried about the remaining two. Sorry if this is an obvious problem, I'm just kind of freaking out. I don't want to change a bunch of water and shock them and I also don't know if I need other meds. Please help me! Temp: 74 degrees Tank size: 55 gallons and two years + Filters: One HOB 75 gallon AquaClear, one canister filter Fluval 306 Water changes: Once a week, 30% though personal problems have kept me from doing this over the last month Last change: Monday, 50% Number of fish: Was three, now two. All about eight to nine inches Additives: Just normal water conditioner Food: API Goldfish Pellets, several pinches in the morning Any new fish: No Medications: Just did a round of Melafix trying to cure what I thought was a bacterial infection History: Only ever used the Melafix in my memory Findings on fish: White, fuzzy coating on their bodies and tails. Seemed to go away temporarily with the Melafix and then came back Behavior: Sitting on the bottom of the tank, very little eating Test Results (Tank): Ammonia: 4.0 ppm Nitrite: 0 ppm Nitrate: pH: 6.0
  9. And the perimeter update I promised: pH: 7.6 Ammonia: 0.5 ppm Nitrites: 0.25 ppm Nitrates: 40 ppm
  10. Hi all, First of all thanks so much to everyone who has responded. I'm coming back to this thread for a bit of an update. I apologize it wasn't sooner. Between needing to order in the Gold Buffer, having people in town visiting, and getting sick, I just now was able to get on to the path dnalex and others suggested. In the interim I was continuing to do 50% WC every four or five days for maintenance and to keep the pH up. Whatever was causing the incessant fogginess seems to have cleared up with all the WCs so that is a good first step. As of last night, here are the changes I made: 1) 90% WC and on refill added the Gold Buffer at the directed levels (one tsp per 10 gallons). I made sure to hold the bio rings in tank water while doing the change so as not to kill the BB. 2) I have two filters, one Fluval 360 canister and one Aquaclear 70 gallon HOB. I took out all the ammonia removers from the canister filter and replaced those with ceramic bio rings. I did leave one bag of ammonia remover in the HOB but plan to replace it with bio rings as well. I checked the pH this morning and it was at 7.6 (holding my tap water level). I plan to retest all the levels this evening and will post an update with those numbers. One question about the Gold Buffer, I am assuming I will need to continually add it as I do water changes but will I need to add it more often (ex: daily) to keep the pH buffered? I'm not clear if it is something that will be filtered out or no. One comment is that the fish whose behavior started this all has been very up and down throughout the past couple of weeks. He has DEFINITELY improved from when I first posted but then I just went to check on him and he is bottom sitting with clamped fins again, acting very lazy and apathetic. However when I fed this morning, his behavior was closer to what I had recognized in the past, enthusiastic and playful, zipping around the tank. I still don't really know what is going on with him and even over the past few weeks it has not seemed to spread to the other goldies at all. I suspect the next course of action with him might be doing some sort of salt dip or other medication. I notice some white around his mouth for a brief period which got me thinking about columnaris but that seems to have cleared up almost overnight. Regardless I don't know quite how to treat for that without killing any cycle I might get started so I will stand by for input from more experienced posters. Thanks again for everyone's help. Myself and the goldies appreciate it greatly.
  11. Just a quick update. I ordered the Gold Buffer and am waiting for it to come tomorrow. Going to do a 75% WC today but tested the water parameters first. Ammonia: 0.25 pH: 6.0 Nitrite: 0.50 Nitrate: 40 So obviously a WC is needed. My plan is to do a big WC when I get the Gold Buffer and see if that will hold the pH closer to my tap water. Thanks again for all your support guys!
  12. Quick update. I looked all over for either Gold Buffer or a testing kit so I can stabilize my pH with baking soda and had no luck so I think I'm going to look to the internet to order the Gold Buffer. The Twin who has been ill is doing somewhat better, not displaying the clamped fins and no one is gasping at the surface for air anymore. I did a small WC (25%), with the assumption I'd be changing it again with the Gold Buffer but that obviously didn't happen. So I think tomorrow morning I am going to do a 90% WC and order the Gold Buffer. LisaCGold - Definitely will look into flukes once I have the tank stabilized. Shakaho - Here's my cleaning process for the two filters. The HOB has to be cleaned every two weeks otherwise it gets very clogged and gummed up. I clean the sponge, ammonia remover by ringing them out in aquarium water and just keep the bio rings in the aquarium water. The canister gets cleaned every month and I do the same process for cleaning its filter media as I do with the HOB media. I do clean parts of the canister and the HOB with tap water, mainly because I don't know how to clean them with the aquarium water. Maybe I destroyed some of my bacteria that way? Also, I have to replace the sponges pretty often. Maybe one every couple of months. I have kept the same bio rings for about a year now. Shakaho and Mernany - I think I'd have to go with sand just because the bare bottom alternative seems a little unsightly to me but maybe I am being close minded. For some reason I was always scared the goldies would eat the sand. Is that not the case or is it not dangerous because it's so small? Any recommendations on brands for the sand, how much you needed, etc?
  13. LisaCGold, Oh, thank you for the link! I have never treated for flukes, I don't know if I even considered that might be the issue, do you think it's possible?
  14. Hiya dnalex, Thank you SO much for responding. I have been having a terrible problem with the pH for a long time now. I will invest in the Gold Buffer to help keep the pH up. Regarding the water changes, would 50% - 75% a week closer to what I need to be doing? Do you think the breathing at the surface is due to the Tetra AquaSafe and Prime? Do you think the fish will be alright for the evening or do I need to do a big WC to get the tank oxygenated before bed? You're for sure right with the feeding. Just freaked out with the ammonia so high and didn't want to get more detritus in the tank. I think I will go back to two feedings a day following the two minute rule. I suspect my boyfriend was overfeeding some.
  15. Test Results and Other Requested Information: * Ammonia Level (Tank) 0.25 ppm * Nitrite Level (Tank) 0.25 ppm * Nitrate level(Tank) 40 ppm * Ammonia Level(Tap) 0 ppm * Nitrite Level(Tap) 0 ppm * Nitrate level(Tap) 0 ppm * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 6.4 * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.6 * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API Freshwater Master Test Kit - Drops * Water temperature? 76 F * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 55 gallons. Been running a year and a half. * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? HOB Aqua Clear 70 Power Filter and Fluval 306 canister filter * How often do you change the water and how much? 25% - 50% weekly. Missed a change about three weeks ago. * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? Changed 25% today, 50% yesterday, 25% Tuesday, 25% Sunday and 75% on Saturday. * How many fish in the tank and their size? Five commons ranging in size from three to five inches. * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Tetra AquaSafe Plus with water changes. * What do you feed your fish and how often? API Goldfish Pellets, boyfriend and I both used to feed each once a day with the 2 minute feeding rule. I stopped feeding on Saturday and fasted them until Tuesday morning. Now only feeding a very minimal amount. * Any new fish added to the tank? No. * Any medications added to the tank? SeaChem Prime with every water change since Sunday. * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. Only treatment has been the above use of Prime. * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? Largest fish has a huge, gorgeous tail which now has a small bloody streak on it. Just noticed this yesterday. * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? Second largest fish has been incessantly bottom sitting starting about a week ago. Also showing clamped fins. This whole ordeal started when I noticed my second largest fish (one of our Twins) bottom sitting. I was planning on doing a larger water change so I was hoping this would help him. I had also been noticing a slight murkiness to the water. When I did the large water change and saw very little improvement from the Twin, I checked the levels. The ammonia was 2.0 ppm and nitrate was 160 ppm. I freaked and researched ammonia neutralizers, got Prime and put it in with the water conditioner. The murkiness abated somewhat, the Twin was slowly improving, and then the murkiness got worse. After my water change this evening, I noticed all five fish are now breathing at the surface and the murkiness is awful. Maybe relevant background: We had two netrite snails die in the tank over the past few months. They were medium sized. I also pulled out all the plastic plants and decorations on Saturday because I know those can harbor nasty things. There is about a half an inch of gravel in the bottom which I have been rigorously vacuuming (and really always have been...I get paranoid about stuff settling in there). I would describe the murkiness as a yellow/whitish cloud, all my internet searching points to bacteria bloom? I realize I am overstocked. I adopted these fish not knowing much about goldfish care (the owner gave them to me in a 25 gallon) and have come to appreciate them and all that goes into their maintenance. I am open to rehoming some of them if need be, however this tank has never gone through anything like this in the year and a half I have had it going. Can you guys offer me any help? Thanks in advance!
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