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  1. I have the 264gph one for 2 months and so far loving it. There's a great review for one in this forum products review section, that pretty much made my decision. They come under different brand names but I believe they're all similar, and have amazing feedbacks throughout. Mine came inside a very professionally packed SunSun box.
  2. Pro gold made all my fishes gulp air like crazy. They literally wanted to glue their faces to the surface, they would break away once in a while to swim around but had to hurriedly rush back within 10 seconds like their lifes depend on it. They returned to normal as soon as I switched back to other foods, even when other foods are also commercial pellets.
  3. I would like to follow her up with probiotic. I have acidophilus at 2 billion per capsule. How much gel food can I make for every capsule?
  4. Thank you Tithra. I will definitely put this down as something to try. It probably won't be my first choice because my life situation makes it very difficult for me to maintain two tanks, especially one with less water volume that requires more frequent WCs. But if I couldn't find other option, I will try my best to give this idea a go.
  5. So after one week of MM, not only that she doesn't get any better, her condition is exacerbated. She's floating almost all day instead of 3-5 hours twice a day like before. I feel bad making the poor fish more miserable than she already was. I think it was a pretty bad decision to give her the MM. Not sure if the med in there aggravated her or the contents of the food, which is similar to ProGold. I was quite disappointed with ProGold, it gives my other fishes floaty as well. Luckily, they returned to normal as soon as I stopped. I will have to research other methods to alleviate her problem.
  6. I think I will give it a few more days to correctly judge the effectiveness.... I will try feeding less although I think I've already been feeding very conservative lately and the growth of all 3 fishes seems to halted a bit. Also, she can get the same reaction from just one pellet... My tank is a 40Breeder, so depth is quite favorable relatively to most tanks, not sure if cutting off water volume would be wise when it compromises the gallon requirement for the 3 fishes i have in there.
  7. Also, isn't it bad I stop short on the course of antibiotic? I remember reading it would cause resistance to the med and maybe other bad things.
  8. I've fasted her 3-4 days a couple of times, followed with one week of spinach which she wasn't floaty during the duration. Each time I tried to reintroduce her to different foods: gels, frozen, repashy.....and each time her problem came back.
  9. When should I expect to see improvement? She has been on MM for 4 days and so far she look much worse. She gulps more desperately and longer, it's similar to the time I fed her Pro-gold. Whatever is in these foods, it makes her went crazy gulping like she will never has another chance to do it. She's also floating all day and has less control of her body (flipping, barrel rolls, belly up...).
  10. I could put her in a floating tub at feeding time. I think that would be best for her not having to go through the stress of moving out alone into an almost empty tank, she loves being around the other fishes and always teaming up with the ranchu shifting through the sand and poking the plants when not floating. But what about them eating each other poops? Would the contents in the poops no longer matter once they went thru the digestive tracts? She's known to get floaty even with just one tiny pellet. What are the chance of a not very well-digested contents in the poops of other fishes irritate her and interfere with her progress?
  11. Just making sure. This has to be done with her in a different tank, correct?
  12. Her belly around the area feel soft but bouncy. The two sides feel firmer while the very bottom, whitest part, feel soft. I've never do this before so I don't know my judgement is accurate, what might feel soft to me could be normal for someone else. Also, there are 2-4 light red streaks in her tail if that means anything. They have alway been there, not going away or getting worse, water paramenters are good and other fishes don't have them. She weighs 23-24 grams.
  13. I won't rule out the chance that she's stunted since she came from a giant chain store where the condition of their fishes is very questionable. But during the 6 months I have her, not only she had tripled in size but went though several color changes so I would say she's showing good growth progress. I will attempt to feel her belly tomorrow and maybe weigh her.
  14. I've mentioned frozen foods do not work. Being reluctant to use MM, I went on try as many fasting method and food combination as I possible can. I did 1 day/week fasting follow with one day of veggie, I did 3-4 days fasting followed with one whole week of veggie. But the moment I reintroduce anything else, no matter how small the amount, or that I still feed veggie along side to slowly ease in, she immediately goes back to gulp and float. Another video of her floating: and here's how she normally is, after farting out the air she gulped in. Interestingly, her poops are all thick and chunky with no air mixed in ever, she farts the air out seperately. My non-floaty fishes have longer poops with air inside sometimes. ......until the next feeding.
  15. Here's a short video of her today. Sorry for the blurry and glaring. I had to stand far away and zoomed in, if I come any closer, she will attempt to swim around normally as she's very strong and still capable. You can see her doing that near the very end of the video.
  16. Big pump! I'm been holding off using the MM hoping I can find other solution since I don't have much confident in MM putting the issue away permanently (I've read about the same numbers of successful stories as there are unsuccessful ones), and that she was still showing signs of maybe just food related issue instead of internal infection (great buoyancy when not feeding, short/chunky poops, ravenous appetite, very active). But since my last post, her condition is getting worse so I think I will have to to resort to MM after all. Peas no longer work and give her floaty big time. I followed the forum and got Soilent Green, didn't help either. Pro-Gold makes her floats worse than anything else I've ever tried. I like to revive this thread instead of creating a new one since there are already some great discussion and opinions here. I would like to have more opinions on whether it's just food-related based on what's mentioned above, or that MM is probably the only solution here. My biggest worry is that even if MM cure her for the moment, it can potentially wreck her organs/kidney and the issue will come back later worse than ever. Nothing change from the original settings, but here they are anyway: * Ammonia Level 0 * Nitrite Level 0 * Nitrate level <10 * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.8 * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.6 Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API Master Kit * Water temperature? 74-78 * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 40 Gallon Breeder * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? AC 70 & 50 * How often do you change the water and how much? 70-80% every 5-6 days * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? 4 days ago * How many fish in the tank and their size? 2 oranda 3 - 3.5in, 1 ranchu 1.5in * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Prime * What do you feed your fish and how often? Spinach and Repashy only for the last 2 weeks * Any new fish added to the tank? no * Any medications added to the tank? none * List previous issues experienced (dropsy, SBD, etc.) oranda with floaty problem since April * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. Standard 4-5 rounds of salt & prazipro for every new fish in separate QT tank * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? none * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? floaty as described
  17. I've tried many dietary options and feeding regimes but none seem to work for a long time. Her toleration gets worse and worse each week. She used to react to only commercial foods, but eventually frozen foods and gel food made w/ agar agar became the problem as well. Even something once was very safe like peas give her the reaction about half of the time now. The only thing that is still safe is spinach. She reacts even if fed only a tiny amount, so overfeeding is probably not the culpit. Fasting has also been tried. When it's not around meal times she's upright, very active, and the most powerful swimmer in the tank. So from what you suggested and my observation, I'm still holding onto the hope that it's not internal infection or something severe, and I don't have to put her through meds that could possibly hurt her more than it help.
  18. This is why I'm still on the fence about using MMs with my floaty fish. Her condition is still slightly better than Puff, she only gulp and float right after food but ok during other times. I already had a thread in D&D but did not follow up with the med since I've seen the med works just as many times as it did not work. And when it did not, or only temporarily, the problems come back worse since the med possibly damaged the fish organs. My only worry is that if left untreated, the chronic problem get worse over time until beyond saving. Such difficult decision....
  19. Didn't Puff go through several rounds of MMs? Did the med not help at all?
  20. The Metromed and Progold arrived yesterday. I'm holding off treating her for at least a week since I have to seed the filter for the QT tank anyway, and I'm super busy lately. I've been trying to minimize her floating by feeding the least offending food, frozen brine shrimps, then follow immediately with peas. That seems to help a bit until then.
  21. I ordered Metromed and Progold and they're shipped. Here is a video of her start the gulping about 15-20min after being fed gel food w/ the simple recipe I noted above. Sorry for the video quality from my old phone. This is considered 'nomal' gulping after gel food or frozen foods. It's more frantic with commercial pellets. The other two fishes are fed exactly the same stuffs and never touch the surface. You can see her already start floaty butt-up when she tries to swim down, and this is just after 15-20min of food. I will try to get a video of her floating if this isn't enough to diagnose.
  22. I'm reading the advices and will order MM, and Pro Gold or Jump-start (which?), tomorrow or the next day. As for the other method, I only have a 10gal so I don't know if 5-6in water is too tight of space. I can't do twice a day water change. In fact, I dont think I can even maintain WCs for two tanks at regular schedule, my work schedule is very demanding and I already have to give up several activities and hobbies lately. Even if I'm to start her on MM, I would really want to know if keeping her in the same tank is possible, like I would seperate them at feeding time and make sure they get their respective food and none of the other's. Btw, I only feed her sinking foods since the first day. She might have been fed floating stuffs before that but like I said in my OP, she never float once in the first two month I had her. Another slight problem, I might have to move them back to the 29gal for a week to relocate the 40B to my bedroom as family is not happy about its current location at end of the hallway...they're bumping their toes and stuffs get tangled into the stand and craps...
  23. I can't really get a good video of her. Whenever I'm close enough to tape, her behavior would change. Being a strong swimmer she would appear ok by being able to swim down, or beg for food. It's only when the light is off or that I am pretty far away then her natural behavior, as in floating, could ben seen. I understand the important of not medicating the fish until absolutely necessary, that's why I hold off posting here because I guessed MM would be the recommendation when she might not need it...yet. But right now I think her situation is quite bad. A couple of times, she even do the 2nd phrase of gulping and floating after being relieved from the first time. Yes, she does it the 2nd time without even being fed. I think that as long as the food is yet to be expelled from her body, she still feel some kind of irritation. With such a long duration of floating after being fed, it affected her resting as well. I would feed her at 10pm and still see her floats at 5 or 6 in the moring when she would have sleep at the bottom next to her oranda mate. Other than that she doesn't show any other sign of illness. When it's not happening to her she's the most active fish and have the biggest appetite, I have to drop food away from her so others would have a share. Very responsive and engaging with the deco in the tank.
  24. I will attempt to get a video, but it wont be of good quality due to the combination of my crappy phone and the dim lightning (very old strip from the 29g w/ 20watt T8 bulb.....still shopping around for new fixture). I can order Metromed, if she absolutely need it, along with pro-gold that i didn't get before because of shipping which I don't think worth it for one item.
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