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  1. I had to put Mister Pigg down. When I got home from work on Friday the pineconing on her right side was much worse. Her spine was curving, and between her pectoral fins something was protruding about 1/2 inch. Best I can describe, it was like a tumor or cyst. She was also having trouble breathing. After the kids went to bed I picked up some clove oil, said a prayer and let her go. I buried her the next morning in the flower garden.

    I do appreciate all of the advice given here!

  2. the only thing Im going to say, Internal filters unless cleaned very good regularly, can get bad bacteria built up in them Since goldfish are very very messy fish... Im leaning this to your problem.

    And my experience with HOB's has been that they don't self prime... specifically, the AquaClear50 on my tropical tank... but I digress.

    Are you saying that my normal filters are harboring the bacteria that caused Mister Pigg's infection? Because I read Helen's post the exact opposite... that if my filters were to blame all of my fish would be affected and poor Mister Pigg would be exhibiting pineconing bilaterally.

    So, back to my most recent query: Does Mister Pigg present any danger of contamination to the other two fish in the tank with her?

  3. Follow up question: Assuming Mister Pigg has a bacterial infection secondary to some parasite, are the remaining two fish at an increased risk of contracting the same over the next 8-9 days if Mister Pigg remains in the tank?

    FWIW, I don't think my DIY filter directly caused the problem. I'm theorizing that the DIY appeared to work for a couple of days (based on how the parameters were testing) and then I got caught up in other things and let the tank go unchecked, without wc's for 3-4 weeks. Ultimately, the DIY wasn't filtering properly, Ammonia and NitrAtes shot thru the roof, stressing the fish and making them quite susceptible to parasites or other infections.

    I also want to be clear that I'm very thankful for the assistance freely and graciously given here. If anyone is sensing a tone about my posts it's because I'm quite angry with myself for creating this situation to begin with. In the space of a few weeks I've gone from a healthy tank with happy, thriving fish that had no apparent issues to near chaos.

  4. I'm not trying to be obstreperous about a qt and water changes, but truly I'm stuck on that particular front. I can continue to do wc's on the tank until saturday morning, but I won't be able to resume water changes or get her into my qt until late evening on July 13.

    As far as pinpointing the problem in the tank, I'm confident that the cycle problem was my DIY filter which has now been removed. Everything was fine (parameters maintained a consistent 0/0/10-20 and have been for the 2+ years the tank has been running) until I decided to get creative with my filtration. Word to the wise, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it until it is."

    So let's cut to the quick, at this point that the only steps I can take are:

    1. continue wc's while I can
    2. order the MM's
    3. have the parental unit start feeding the MM's when it arrives
    4. cross fingers
    5. pray

    I certainly wasn't looking for a "magic bullet" that would cure the fish and eliminate the consequences of my own stupidity, but I was hoping for something more.

    Let me ask this: Given the photo of Mister Pigg (and I can provide more if need be). What do you think the chances are she will survive until July 13 with the plan outlined above? Because, honestly, I'm not interested in putting her through 8-9 days of increasing suffering, especially if there is a good chance she will die before I get back. Nor do I want her to survive the week but experience such internal damage such that her QoL will be terribly diminished. She deserves better than that.

  5. Tank readings this morning are:

    Ammonia .25 ppm (maybe less... The color is between 0 and .25, but closer to .25).

    NitrIte 0

    NitrAte 10-20

    Regarding wc's while on vacation, it's truly not going to be possible for my Dad to do any. The pump idea is a good one, but I have a python (and it doesn't get much easier than that).

    Since my water quality issues appear to be waning, can we re-focus the discussion on treatment options for the dropsied fish?

  6. He put in a new filter...

    Not quite...

    One of my Whisper 30i's stayed in the tank for the DIY experiment (and is still there). I used the media from my other two Whisper 30i's in the DIY filter in hopes that it would help the BB get established. When I took the DIY filter out, I put the media back into the 30i's with new filter pads and re-installed both in the tank.

  7. My theory is that my DIY filter (installed in late May and now removed) interfered with the cycle. The cycle didn't totally crash as my nitrites are have held at 0 and my nitrAtes have stabilized at 10-20. Ammonia seems to be coming down as well. At least I had the forethought to use the media from my Whisper filters in my DIY so some of the BB would survive. One good decision in a bucket full of bad ones...

    I don't have anyone that can do wc's while I'm gone. My Dad (who's 75) is on tap to feed them, but doing daily wc's just isn't physically feasible for him.

    No meds on hand other than prazi and some jungle fizz tabs. I'm more than willing to pick up whatever (including rush ordering some Medi Gold if need be). I may even have some epsom salts around here somewhere.

  8. Before I begin...

    Test Results for the Following:

    * Ammonia Level(Tank) 1ppm today (4ppm 2 days ago)

    * Nitrite Level(Tank) 0ppm today (0ppm 2 days ago)

    * Nitrate level(Tank) 10-20ppm today (off scale high 2 days ago... looked like a glass of Merlot)

    * Ammonia Level(Tap) not tested

    * Nitrite Level(Tap) not tested

    * Nitrate level(Tap) not tested

    * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) not tested

    * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) not tested

    Other Required Info:

    * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? Master Freshwater Drops

    * Water temperature? 74*F

    * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 46g, 2-1/2 years

    * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? 3 Whisper 30i (in tank version)

    * How often do you change the water and how much? 80% twice in 2 days.

    * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? 65% today

    * How many fish in the tank and their size? 3, 5-6inches

    * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Prime

    * What do you feed your fish and how often? ProGold 2x day (Fast on Saturdays, 1 feeding on Sunday nite)

    * Any new fish added to the tank? no

    * Any medications added to the tank? no

    * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. Prazi, full rounds 2 years ago

    * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? one fish has slight pineconing

    * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? nope, behaving normally since the wc's began.

    Monday morning I noticed my 3 orandas hanging in a corner, not bottom sitting, but definitely not swimming about normally. Monday nite I checked levels and my ammonia and nitrAtes were WAY high (numbers stated above). 90 % WC immediately. This brought it down to Ammonia 1ppm and a normal 10-20ppm for nitrAtes. (During this time nitrItes were all 0).

    I did an 80% wc yesterday (forgot to take readings).

    Today, ammonia is still at 1ppm and nitrAtes 10-20. A 65% wc is currently underway.

    Well, Mister Pigg, my red-cap, was looking very round yesterday but no signs of problems. Today she's pineconing slightly on her right side.

    My dilemma is that I'm set to go on holiday in 2 days and will be gone for a week, so my treatment options are limited to the next 72 hours. I need to get some level of stability in place before I go.

    I usually have an extra filter running so I can do an instant quarantine tank, but that filter no longer functions. Can't run an unfiltered qt since I'm going to be gone and can't do the requisite wc's.

    What say ye?

    I know where this likely generated from. I experimented with making my own filter using an 800gph pond pump and a pvc pipe filter system of my own design. Clearly, it was a miserable failure in the biological filtration department. It held the tank levels normal for a few days, then I got lazy and stopped testing and wc's. Chances are the ammonia and nitrAtes were too high for nearly 3 weeks. I pulled this DIY filter out on Monday when I discovered the high readings.

    Oddly enough, the puppies behavior has been normal (until this past Monday). Fins up, swimming about, rooting in the gravel and refusing to leave the few silk plants in the places I put them. Their behavior returned to normal after the Monday wc. Even now, Mister Pigg is swimming about and eating like nothing is wrong. I will say she's very darty though... almost like she's flashing, but she's not rubbing up against anything. I've never pinned too much on this behavior as she's been that way since I got her.

    I'm mad at myself for the filter experimentation and even more frustrated that I'm going to have to leave for 7 days.

    I have some pics of Mister Pigg that I will upload/post within the next hour or two.

  9. Free to a good home in central NC, USA. I will not ship him. I am happy to meet you at a location within a reasonable drive, however.

    I truly regret giving him up, but I need to reduce the number of tanks I have. I simply can't stay on top of the maintenance like I should. I got Neville in July of 2010 from Forsyth aquatics in GA. He's been fed a steady diet of crushed ramshorn snails and frozen bloodworms as treats. He's lived as a singleton in a 10g tank.

    Neville is free. Im happy to give you as many ramshorn snails as you can handle for free as well.

    If you want the complete 10g tank setup (tank, hood, filter, heater, etc.), that is all available for $35. If you want to pick up the 6g snail breeder tank as well, the total would be $50.

    If interested, send me a PM or email to alders2829atmypacksdotnet.

  10. I put a dozen frozen peas in a bowl with probably a half cup of water (I don't measure it, I just wag it) and microwave them for about 1:40 on high. Once they cool I drain off the water and pop the peas out of the shell into another bowl. I lightly mash the peas to break the up a wee bit, then squirt some tank water in the bowl with the peas, swish it a bit and then pour in the tank.

    I do the shelling, mashing and swishing right in front of the tank... by the time I get ready to pour the peas in my three puppies have worked themselves into a frenzy. ;-)

  11. Very sorry to hear about the LH. I know it hurt to lose her after how hard you've worked. Please don't be discouraged... the improvement in the dropsied oranda is proof that you have been, and are continuing to do an amazing job!!

  12. The advice here has been nothing but excellent, but you owe yourself a pat on the back... you've had to do the "heavy lifting" on this project and the benefit to your puppies is clear!!

    Slightly OT, this thread isn't helping me forget how bad I want a ranchu!! ;-)

  13. I can't really offer any treatment advice, but I've got my fingers crossed for you and your puppies!

    Whenever I'm feeling overwhelmed with a situation (be it work, family, major car repair... etc), I start by taking a minute to work out the panic in my head, place that negativity aside and then find a place to dig in. Then I start, one sub-task at a time. Complete sub-task, then on to the next. If it's a situation where I can put on some music, tv, or favorite movie while I'm working, it helps keep my frontal lobe occupied (and not get back into a panic type mode). I also allow myself to take breaks when I get tired and/or frustrated... that's when mistakes get made and important items/clues missed. I also keep in mind that slow progress is still progress and I have to be patient with myself and the situation... panic can make you rush and that's likely as bad or worse than being tired/frustrated.

    That's a round about way of saying stay calm and on task and you (and your puppies) will come out on the other side!!

  14. I've been fairly consistent with a 60-80% wc/weekly with my current puppies. I've missed a week here and there, but never let nitrates get above 20 anymore. I've got a DIY python, so changes are relatively quick and painless.

    Before anyone suggests it, another tank is out of the question at this time. I practically had to sell my soul to get the 46! Now years down the road I might be able to negotiate another/larger tank if it becomes clear the 46 is too small.

    The current occupants are between 4 and 6 inches (tails included).

  15. The desire for a ranchu is getting out of control... and worse yet, my birthday is coming.

    My 46g bowfront is running 3 tetra whisper in-tank filters (these are the wal-mart 10-30i models that run at about 145 gph). So I'm a hair short of the 10x/hour turnover target as it is. My thoughts are to pull one of the tetras and replace it with an AC70. I'm also thinking about adding a pothos plant/nitrate filter to keep nitrates down between water changes.

    Does this sound like a reasonable approach or is 4 in a 46 just a bad idea regardless of my filtration postulations?

    Did I mention I really want a ranchu?

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