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  1. The anitbiotics are complete and both fish are healthy again, just regrowing their tail fins. It's amazing. they were so far gone I never would have expected a full recovery!! Thanks again to everyone who helped. One last question: I'd like to get the salt to 0% again, from 0.3%. Over how many days should this be done? It's been ~1.5 weeks since I started the salt.
  2. I would definitely love to upgrade. I have a 15 gal available that might be their first upgrade, but i'm still looking into options.
  3. Update: New guy seems to be 100% recovered, still regrowing his tail fin. Sancho is doing MUCH better, his fins are up and he's less red and blotchy and has lots more energy. The antibiotics are doing the trick! Still 4 more days of treatment left, hope he makes a full recovery. Thank you SO MUCH everyone for your great advice. Their recovery is all thanks to you.
  4. Thanks! I picked up Maracyn-Two by Mardel, it treats gram-negative bacteria...active ingredient: 10 mg Minocycline. I'll put Sancho on a treatment of antibiotics (5day cycle) when I get home and leave the prazi for now. For the new guy, I am thinking of doing another dose of parasite guard just to make sure it's all gone. He's looking really healthy, but when it comes time to re-introduce him to Sancho's tank I'm worried about him bringing in flukes again.
  5. which of the following options would you do for sancho after the 70% water change? - redose parasite guard immediately (contains praziq and metronidazole)? - wait 12 hours, put carbon in filter, redose parasite guard tomorrow? - redose immediately but with anti bacterial only, for example Mardel's Maracyn tablets from petsmart? Any thoughts lemme know asap! My only window to run out for Maracyn is in an hour!
  6. On the plus side, the new fish seems to have made an almost full recovery: Lots of energy, fins unclamped, shiny scales and fins aren't that milky anymore. Thanks everyone for the great advice! Sancho is doing worse: lots of red on his body, he looks like he went once through a meat grinder :( POOR GUY!! This morning when i turned the lights on and woke them up, the new guy started pecking on Sancho, who doesn't have enough energy to swim away. I had to take the new guy out, now he's back in the quarantine tank (sterilized). I'll be continuing treatment in both tanks and will keep a SUPER close eye on the ammonia in the quarantine. (salt is at 0.3% in both tanks) Stakos, metronidazole is one of the active ingredients in parasite guard. It'll be 48h tonight, so i was thinking of doing a 70% water change and then putting the carbon in the filter in overnight to clear up the water, then putting in a third dose of parasite guard tomorrow morning. Any advice on this plan? Should I skip the waiting period and redose this evening with parasite guard? Or should I skip the parasite guard and try to find some pure Metronidazole? Sancho is barely eating so medicated food wouldn't be an option.
  7. Just fed them a small amount to watch them swim around and check them out. Sancho has deteriorated dramatically, it looks like his body is raw: flaking scales and angry red patches. His tail has red streaks in it and he has extremely low energy levels. It's amazing that he declined so quickly, since the new fish was only introduced a few days ago and Sancho was perfectly happy and healthy at the time. I'm really worried that the parasite guard isn't working; maybe there are low levels of prazi in it?? I haven't had any luck with it in the past, to be honest, but these fish are a bit older so I hoped they would come through. I feel so helpless!! ACK!!! Just want the flukes gone!!!!!!
  8. thanks stakos. Neither fish has appeared to improve with the second dose of the Parasite Guard, they both look very sick and have barely any energy. This morning I put in up to 0.2% salt. I can't do a water change today unfortunately: the parasite guard that I'm using is for a 48 hour treatment and is in tablet form (1 per 10 gal) so it would be impossible to cut the tablet to the right size if I did a water change now. Tomorrow evening (48 h mark) I'll complete the 70% water change. My question right now is: Can anyone advise whether I can do a third and fourth treatment of the Parasite Guard, or keep repeating until the symptoms are gone?? Even though the parasite guard box says repeat only 2 times with 48 h in between, it clearly hasn't eradicated the fluke infestation. Symptoms are persistent and worsened, and to be honest the fish look half dead. I doubt that the parasite guard has done its job. (Sancho now has red spots on his body, almost like cuts/lesions)
  9. ok so most likely flukes then! New fish has only half a tail now but enough energy to eat heartily; he cleaned up! Sancho now has very milky fins which tells me they'll soon start fraying and also has red streaks on his body. He now has zero energy, even though he looks 'healthier' than the new fish, and has spat all his food out I just did a 70% water change and added 0.1% salt... will go up to 0.2% tomorrow morning and 0.3% in the evening. I added the second dose of the Parasite Guard which contains praziquantel, diflubenzuron, metronidazole and acriflavine. As per directed, this will be the last dose, but the fish do not appear to have reacted to the first dose; in fact they are looking worse. Has anyone had goldfish recover from a heavy fluke infection? How long will it take them to recover, and should I re-dose with the parasite guard (prazi equiv) in a few days?
  10. Thanks, I'll start the salt when I get home tonight. I haven't had good experience with goldfish recovering due to salt treatment... Are there any recommendations for other meds? Is flukes the most likely cause of all this? I can't understand why the new fish would be perfectly healthy for 2 weeks then overnight get extremely sick. This would mean that the flukes would have been present for 2 weeks without any symptoms for the new fish, but Sancho fell sick immediately after being exposed... hmmm...
  11. looked at Sancho again and his fins look very cloudy, almost like a fine dust is covering them. Is that velvet?? New fish has pretty bad frayed edges now.
  12. I want to add that both fish have a great appetite although they sometimes spit out the food due to spasms
  13. Hi everyone, My two small comets have taken a dramatic turn for the worse. The tank is cycled, excellent water parameters (see below) and contained the first goldfish (Sancho) since the beginning of Sept. He was very healthy during these 3 months, just extremely shy. I recently bought a second comet, since it's my experience that comets love company. I had the new comet in quarantine for 2 weeks and he was extremely healthy and happy during this period. 13 days in, one day before I planned on transferring him to Sancho's tank, I noticed the ammonia spike suddenly to 2ppm in the quarantine tank. The quarantine tank doesn't get much use and so obviously is not fully cycled, although I added some fresh gravel from Sancho's tank to help with the bacteria count and had been doing 50% water changes daily to every 2nd day. When this spike happened, the new goldfish took a sharp turn for the worse immediately: bottom sitting, erradic swimming, cloudy fins, pinned fins. I recognized that this was most likely ammonia poisoning and did 90% water changes for two days to help get the quarantine tank back to normal. This didn't help at all, and I started noticing red streaks in his fins, frayed fin edges and gill irritation. Here's my mistake: Since the new fish had made it nearly 2 weeks extremely healthy, I assumed ammonia poisoning had caused these symptoms, not a parasite. I thought that he would be greatly helped if I could put him in a cycled tank so he could recover more quickly with stable water conditions, with no risk of transferring illness.... I was wrong, you experts are shaking your heads..! I put him in Sancho's tank and the next day woke up to find them both bottom sitting Clearly the new fish was carrying a parasite/bacteria of some sort and I am struggling to figure out what it is, since he seems to have a variety of symptoms common to a lot of illnesses. It's been two days since I introduced him to Sancho's tank. Yesterday I put in the first dose of Parasite Guard as a start. I will repeat tomorrow, as directed, but am not sure if it is a parasite or if he needs antibiotics? The new fish is looking really sad New fish symptoms in the order they occurred: - cloudy fins (he's white, but the cloudiness makes his tail fin look milky, hard to describe) - a couple of white spots on fins (almost positive it isn't ich as it hasn't spread but it looks similar) - clamped fins - erratic swimming - bottom-sitting (increasing to the point where he only swims during feeding now) - subtle red streaks in tail fin - frayed, decaying fin edges - rapid breathing but not overly distressed - violent spasms, especially when trying to swallow food **this is the most worrying and scary to watch - one gill not opening (mucus?) - subtle cloudiness on eyes Sancho's symptoms in order they occurred, starting 12 hours after new fish was added. new fish was added 2 days ago. - bottom sitting except when feeding - clamped fins - cloudiness/milkiness to fins - violent spasms, especially when eating - no other symptoms yet Any help identifying this as parasite/bacteria/etc would be greatly appreciated so I can buy the appropriate meds ASAP!!! Again, I am using Parasite Guard and will do second dose tomorrow, as per directions. Fish don't seem to be helped by the meds yet... (carbon has been removed from filter) Test Results for the Following: * Ammonia Level: 0ppm * Nitrite Level: 0ppm * Nitrate level: 20-30ppm, currently 20ppm * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 8.0 (stable) * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 8.0 Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API drops * Water temperature? 75 F * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 10 gal, 8+ months * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? generic carbon/foam 10 gal filter * How often do you change the water and how much? once per week 25% mainly to keep nitrate in check, other parameters are stable * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? yesterday, 25% was changed before adding Parasite Guard * How many fish in the tank and their size? 2 small comets 2" bodies * What kind of water additives or conditioners? dechlorinator * What do you feed your fish and how often? freeze dried flakes once a day * Any new fish added to the tank? yes, the new comet! * Any medications added to the tank? parasite guard, yesterday * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. Just parasite guard yesterday, no other meds/salt in the tank... I find salt doesn't help, in my experience but may be worth a try? * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? see above * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? see above
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