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  1. Good question! Even healthy fish tend to have topical colonization of some species of parasites and bacteria, so it can be tricky to know what is and isn't normal. I'd tend to consider 'load' or volume an indicator of a problem, along with behaviors changes, and everything else as 'normal'.

    I'm interested to hear what the microscopy guru has to say as well!

     

    Thanks! It's weird because since I left Koko's a couple years ago, I've been in school... and doing anything out of the program was severely looked down upon. I can understand if there is a risk to human or animal but I never saw any harm in doing this. It's nice to have someone who encourages safe curiosity. I mean, otherwise... how do we know what's normal and what's sick???

     

    I'm also curious as to what someone with more experience with a microscope has to say. I think this is fascinating :)

  2. Hello,

     

    I never know under what topic to put these things.

     

    A couple months ago, I bought a compound microscope with 40X-2000X magnification because I was curious as to what the magnified slime coat on my very sick ranchu looked like. I found a few flukes (live, btw, it was very interesting to follow them around the slide) and several random bacteria, all of which I was treating for under the supervision of a helper sub here.

     

    I'm considering doing this to my new ranchu who just came from Dandy Orandas a couple weeks ago. He appears perfectly healthy, I'm just curious. I like to know what things look like.

     

    Will all fish have a couple parasites or will a perfectly healthy fish be totally free of anything out of the ordinary?

     

    I've been trained to handle samples and slides etc, I'm not just throwing things around... but I also like to venture on my own every now and then and see things for myself.

     

    I know years ago, Helen had an amazing microscope and what she found was always interesting, but her microscope was also much more impressive than mine lol.

     

    Anyway, any input would be appreciated! Thanks!

  3. So did the filter make a difference with the ammonia?

     

    Nah, not really. I installed it on the 26th and have been monitoring it since then. The ammonia is about the same, but I am now consistently reading low numbers of nitrates so I suppose that's something. I had a review thread all written out but I chickened out and didn't post it.

     

    Sometimes I'm afraid my understanding of how a non-textbook nitrogen cycle begins isn't correct and I don't want to confuse people.

     

    It's a great little filter though! It's well made, was well packaged, and shipped quickly. No complaints at all there. I'll definitely buy from them again if I need something.

  4. Congrats on the new addition.  86 is ridiculously adorable.  I hope you have a very boring QT :)

     

    And welcome back!  I don't think we were ever on the forum at the same time, but I recently watched one of the videos you posted a few years back and couldn't stop laughing :D

     

    Looking forward to reading how the sponge filter worked out for you.  Seems like a pretty cool product.

     

    Thanks! And omg I forgot about those videos! Lord hammercy... those were the days.

     

     

    And welcome back!  I don't think we were ever on the forum at the same time, but I recently watched one of the videos you posted a few years back and couldn't stop laughing :D

     

    We miss you and love you!  You are so funny Emily! 

     

    I hope your fish friends do well.

     

     

    Haha thank you :) Missed you guys too, for sure.

  5. Cool. [emoji106]. Could you let us know if/how well it worked after you receive it?

    Also, I'm guessing you would want to make sure the ammonia in the tank is as low as possible before sticking it in so as not to crash it even before it gets off the ground.

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    It came in yesterday. Impressive shipping, considering I chose the cheap option. So far... it's a sponge filter and I like it lol. I made sure the ammonia was zero when I installed it. I'll monitor water params as I go and make a thread about it after I've had it running for a while.

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    Angels plus sells an "active" established sponge filter. Just came across it while browsing their site.

    I've tried various bacteria in a bottles and the only one I have success with was Dr Tim's from Drs Foster and Smith which was shipped with a cold pack. Stability was a big [emoji107].

    If I was in your situation I'd probably try the angels plus product. Worst case and you still have an extra sponge filter for the future/next QT.

    http://www.angelsplus.com/FiltersSpongeActive.htm

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    I ended up ordering this. The price wasn't too bad and it never hurts to have a sponge filter.

    I did a big w/c last night, rinsed all the media/floss/and the sponge from the HOB in tank water, siphoned any places dirt could be hiding in the bottom of the tank or in the corners of the filters, didn't feed him at all, and I'm still reading 0.5 ammonia this morning. Do you think substrate would help? I've had fairly thin layer of Tahitian Moon Sand in my main for years and it's been great.

    The issue is driving me nuts but I know this isn't the thread to talk about it. We will see how the sponge filter works out. If nothing else, I'll just keep the ammonia as low I can manually. I don't mind the extra work. My main tank is super low maintenance and my tap water is fabulous.

    Thank you guys for the help and the kind words about 86. He's a sweetheart.

    Cool. [emoji106]. Could you let us know if/how well it worked after you receive it?

    Also, I'm guessing you would want to make sure the ammonia in the tank is as low as possible before sticking it in so as not to crash it even before it gets off the ground.

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    Yes I'll definitely give a little review of it once its put to use :) My husband always had sponge filters in his discus tanks and they were great, but didn't come "activated." Thank you for the advice on the ammonia situation, that would be sad to kill it without giving it a chance lol.

  7. Angels plus sells an "active" established sponge filter. Just came across it while browsing their site.

    I've tried various bacteria in a bottles and the only one I have success with was Dr Tim's from Drs Foster and Smith which was shipped with a cold pack. Stability was a big [emoji107].

    If I was in your situation I'd probably try the angels plus product. Worst case and you still have an extra sponge filter for the future/next QT.

    http://www.angelsplus.com/FiltersSpongeActive.htm

    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

     

    I ended up ordering this. The price wasn't too bad and it never hurts to have a sponge filter.

     

    I did a big w/c last night, rinsed all the media/floss/and the sponge from the HOB in tank water, siphoned any places dirt could be hiding in the bottom of the tank or in the corners of the filters, didn't feed him at all, and I'm still reading 0.5 ammonia this morning. Do you think substrate would help? I've had fairly thin layer of Tahitian Moon Sand in my main for years and it's been great.

     

    The issue is driving me nuts but I know this isn't the thread to talk about it. We will see how the sponge filter works out. If nothing else, I'll just keep the ammonia as low I can manually. I don't mind the extra work. My main tank is super low maintenance and my tap water is fabulous.

     

    Thank you guys for the help and the kind words about 86. He's a sweetheart.

  8.  

    I always thought that salt and ammonia were a bad combination? I don't know, I guess things change. I appreciate your help for sure, but it feels like things are getting a little hostile? I never second guessed you, just going off old information perhaps. Koko's has been my safe place for years. I'm just trying to learn and keep my fish healthy.

    Thank you for your assistance. I'll use the new knowledge to figure this out.

     

     

    I certainly apologize if something I said appeared hostile.  I intended nothing of the kind, but I am very careful about learning why people take a certain action.   If Jared had recommended no salt, I could ask his reason and maybe learn something from him.  I'm pretty sure I ask more about what people did and why they did it than anyone else here.  

     

     

    I apologize for using the word "hostile," I don't think that was appropriate there. I'm super old school... like, I just threw away a bag of MediGold kind of old school, so a lot of the information I'm going off of is old. I haven't been a regular on Koko's for several years. For some reason, I thought salt only made higher amounts of ammonia more toxic so that's why I didn't use it with the PraziPro. It could be something I read years ago, it could be something I *thought* I read years ago, but I was so sure that I was right, I didn't use it.

     

    I definitely don't want to throw Jared under the bus here at all. He was immensely helpful. The reason we didn't use it with my dropsy case is because she was quite bloated and it would've made things worse.

     

    I remember you and I don't want to get off on the wrong foot because that's not who we are. I got defensive because research changes and perhaps I was "remembering" the wrong information all along.

     

    Jared recommended no salt because he said contact with Hikari about salt and PraziPro (she is using PraziPro) yielded that salt doesn't necessarily work well with PraziPro and that salt is only useful with praziquantel if it is the powdered kind. They've been saying that for a while, I can't recall anything about salt and ammonia, however.

     

    I didn't know this about PraziPro but it's very good to know now. Thank you :)

  9. Angels plus sells an "active" established sponge filter. Just came across it while browsing their site.

    I've tried various bacteria in a bottles and the only one I have success with was Dr Tim's from Drs Foster and Smith which was shipped with a cold pack. Stability was a big [emoji107].

    If I was in your situation I'd probably try the angels plus product. Worst case and you still have an extra sponge filter for the future/next QT.

    http://www.angelsplus.com/FiltersSpongeActive.htm

    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

     

    Oh I didn't know about these! Thank you!

     

    Oh he is so adorable!!!

     

    Btw miss ya!

     

    Thanks! He has such a sweet personality as well.

     

    Miss you too Fang. Got out of goldfish for a while due to school but hoping to nestle back into the community eventually. I hope you're well!

  10. I am using Prazipro but no salt due to the ammonia issue. I know ideally they should be used together, but I erred on the side of caution on that one.

    I don't understand. What does ammonia have to do with salt?

    As far as Prime vs AmmoLock, I'm only using Prime now, as the ammonia doesn't go over 1.0 and from what I understand, Prime detoxifies up to 1.0 ppm while AmmoLock detoxifies up to 4.0 ppm.

    The normal dose of Prime detoxifies 1.0 ppm. Double the dose and it does 2.0 ppm. If I remember correctly, you aren't supposed to add more than 4X the normal dose, which would do 4.0 ppm.

    The only things in the tank are a couple dozen glass marbles and an AC 70 (I believe they used to be Fluval). I can try not feeding him (or feeding very little, like you said) to see if that helps, but it was tried before and I have my doubts. He's not massive, but at almost 4 1/2", he is quite the fatty lol.

    Unless you have decaying material somewhere in the system (usually in the filter or substrate) ammonia comes from the protein in fish food. With a very sick fish, however, it could come from decaying tissue of the fish.

    I will give your method of introducing the Stability a shot while making sure to rinse and siphon the dirtiest areas of the tank/filter and let you know how it goes.

    Thank you for your help.

    I always thought that salt and ammonia were a bad combination? I don't know, I guess things change. I appreciate your help for sure, but it feels like things are getting a little hostile? I never second guessed you, just going off old information perhaps. Koko's has been my safe place for years. I'm just trying to learn and keep my fish healthy.

    Thank you for your assistance. I'll use the new knowledge to figure this out.

  11. I think you have learned that you shouldn't mix antibiotics and a cycled/cycling filter.  When I need a hospital tank, I use the bucket-to-bucket method of 100% water changes using two ~10 gallon underbed totes.  

     

    Are you using salt and/or prazi currently?  (Neither of these will affect the cycle.)  Or are you just doing a fish-in cycle?

     

    Ammo lock does the same thing as Prime, converting ammonia to the less toxic ammonium.  If you use Prime you have no need for Ammo Lock.

     

    Unless you have a very large fish,  more than 0.5 ppm ammonia the day after a water change indicates overfeeding.   I suggest you cut the amount you feed in half.

     

    I usually don't recommend "cycling" product, but since you have had trouble establishing a stable cycle in the past, I think trying Stability might be worthwhile.  You should be aware that the bacteria in Stability are not the same as the naturally occurring nitrifiers.   Once you complete cycling, it will take sometime for native nitrifiers to replace the Stability bacteria and only then will you have a completely stable cycle.

     

    If you want to use Stability, do 50% daily water changes, adding Stability to the new water.  If the ammonia goes above 0.5 ppm, further reduce your feeding.  When you remove water from the tank, make sure you take out the dirtiest -- that on the bottom of the tank and that in the filter.  Dump the water from the filter, and give the media a gentle rinse.

     

    Once nitrite appears, add 1 teaspoon of salt per 10 gallons of water, and maintain this concentration until the nitrite disappears.   This will protect the fish from nitrite toxicity.  

     

    I really had no choice in the antibiotic uncycled water a few months ago... but yes, the whole situation was heartbreaking and a learning experience.

     

    I am using Prazipro but no salt due to the ammonia issue. I know ideally they should be used together, but I erred on the side of caution on that one.

     

    When Jared and I were trying to figure out the cause of the ammonia back when I had Clementine, I didn't feed anything for 24 hours and we still got the same reading after a 100% w/c, 1.0 after 24 hours. He was the one who suggested trying the Stability once the fish was healthy again.

     

    As far as Prime vs AmmoLock, I'm only using Prime now, as the ammonia doesn't go over 1.0 and from what I understand, Prime detoxifies up to 1.0 ppm while AmmoLock detoxifies up to 4.0 ppm. I have the AmmoLock on hand if I decide to start the Stability and I have an emergency spike and cannot do water change because it will screw up the cycling process (Also, I was at the store and it was one of those "Shoot. I don't know.... couldn't hurt to have," moments)

     

    The only things in the tank are a couple dozen glass marbles and an AC 70 (I believe they used to be Fluval). I can try not feeding him (or feeding very little, like you said) to see if that helps, but it was tried before and I have my doubts. He's not massive, but at almost 4 1/2", he is quite the fatty lol.

     

    I will give your method of introducing the Stability a shot while making sure to rinse and siphon the dirtiest areas of the tank/filter and let you know how it goes.

     

    Thank you for your help!

     

    Hi Emily :)

    Your new chu is darling :heart I feel your pain about the ammonia :madrant I'm having similar issues (but mines from the tap)

    Good luck!

     

    Thank you so much!! He makes me smile. He's very swimmy and curious, I love it. SO sorry to hear about your ammonia issues.

     

    One of those things that just makes you want to rip your hair out....

  12. Hi guys,

     

    I somewhat recently worked with Jared for a long time with a dropsy case concerning my Petsmart ranchu, Clementine. Unfortunately, she passed away a few weeks ago. She dropsied and it felt like before I could even get my bearings and alert the forum something was wrong, she was gone.

     

    I think a big part of my problem was that she was incredibly sensitive to ammonia and even after I stopped dosing with the antibiotics, I just could not get a steady cycle started and any time the ammonia read over 1.5, she was visibly in distraught, even with AmmoLock or a double dose of Prime.

     

    I bought another ranchu from Ken at DO a couple weekends ago and he arrived on Tuesday. His name is Agent 86 and he's the second fish I've received from them. I'm sure it was my fault, but the first one I bought a few years ago barely made it two weeks. It was quite sad. Anyway, he's adorable and I am already in love with his squishy cheeks.

     

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    I waited a week to have him shipped so I could thoroughly bleach, scrub, and let Clementine's old tank and all the equipment sit dry for a while.

     

    Since I got him, I've been doing daily 70% water changes (with Prime) because the ammonia always settles between 0.5 and 1.0 after 24 hours. The nitrates also seem to read just under 5.0 and maybe trace nitrites, but probably not. pH sits at a constant 7.4.

     

    I'm considering using Seachem Stability along with the AmmoLock to help get things started, but I'm worried about ammonia spikes because I really... really really really do not want to lose this fish.

     

    So here are the Stability directions... "Use 1 capful (5 mL) for each 40 L (10 gallons*) on the first day with a new aquarium. Then use 1 capful for each 80 L (20 gallons*) daily for 7 days. Fish and other aquatic species may be introduced at any time as long as dosage is maintained for 7 days."

     

    He is in a 20 gallon tank.

     

    I'm worried that if I don't do some kind of water change each day, the ammonia will become out of control, going beyond what the AmmoLock can handle (which I believe is 4.0 ppm).

     

    Sooo here is my question. Should I follow the directions verbatim, or should I do water changes and replace any Stability taken out? Or does some evaporate out on it's own and it would be too difficult to figure out how much to replace?

     

    I'm perfectly happy doing daily 50-70% changes for as long as I need to if the tank will eventually cycle, but it's obviously a huge waste of time if it won't.

     

    I do not have another tank to seed with, unfortunately.

     

    Any help would be greatly appreciated... and Agent 86 is obviously quite happy to meet you guys :pease:

  13. How we doing?

     

    Really well!!! I didn't want to say anything too early because of reasons, but so far so good. I believe it's day 5 with no medication at all and she is very active and hungry. When I look from the top, I don't see flawlessly perfect flat scales but it could also be my severe paranoia. I see no reason to act on it.

     

    The ammonia situation is calming down. I've been doing w/c's every other day with Prime added on the off day because we're at about .5 instead of 1-2.

     

    Should I use the "Stability" or see if it will cycle on its own? I'm getting just above 0 amounts of nitrate and nitrite.

  14. Just an update. Numbers are obnoxiously consistent, with occasional trace nitrite & nitrate. I'm trying not to obsess over the ammonia but It's tough.

     

    The lesion looked a little ugly and bloody yesterday but it seems to be getting better. Definitely less red. It's not spreading so that makes me happy.

     

    Tomorrow is day 14 of the oxytetracycline. I'm assuming I need to stop it after tomorrow's w/c... she's spent a long time in medicated water.

  15. It's most likely an injury from the filter intake.  The second possibility is a bacterial cyst which isn't serious and will probably resolve itself.  The third and least likely is epistylis.  Let's just observe for a day or so.  No need to stress :)

     

    Now that the Ich is gone, you can just flush the python with very hot water after each water change.  You don't need to bleach it daily. 

     

    Ok thanks so much! So, because of the injury/cyst, should I keep her in the oxytetracycline longer (because it's day 10)?

     

    Also, I don't know why I didn't see you reply earlier... I was on mobile... maybe that was it.

  16. Ok... I really wish she would just be still for 5 seconds so I could get a good look. Now I'm second guessing the fuzziness AND the white stuff pushing the scale up. Now it just looks like a scale is about to come off and she's a little bloody where it's pulling away.

     

    Should I give it a little bit of time or figure out a way to get a really good look at it? Ugh, I'm sorry... I'm trying so hard to do the right thing.

  17. Um. Hi.

     

    I know you probably hate me by now but I swear I'm doing everything we're agreeing to do. I haven't missed a water change since that one time all heck broke loose, the python is sanitized daily, I even tested the water right after the water change (before and after adding the oxytetracycline, just in case) yesterday to make sure I wasn't just dumping ammonia or other crap in the tank.

     

    I think she has a fungus.

     

    Late last night I noticed a scale looked like it was about to come off so I figured she'd bumped into the filter intake or something but since she is in the medicated water, I knew that would keep any boo boos from getting too bad.

     

    Well, this morning I noticed that it looked like something white was pushing the scale up but I didn't have time to take pictures. I left the house for a few hours to ride a couple clients horses and when I came home, the white thing pushing the scale up definitely looks fuzzy.

     

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    Her mouth looks funny in one of them because I had to feed her to get her to be still long enough for me to get a halfway decent picture.

     

    The water numbers haven't changed... nothing has changed.

     

    I'm so sorry. I really really really wanted this to be over.

  18. Ammonia .75

    Nitrate 0

    Nitrite 0

    pH 7.4

    Temp 75

     

    She looks great. I do still see a bit of a spot in front of her tail but otherwise I'm pleased.

     

    I just got home and those were the readings I got before another 100% w/c. I placed the order for the Seachem Stability, it will be here on Tuesday.

     

    Should I keep reporting levels to you daily (unless something looks horrible) or wait a couple days and give an update?

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