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  1. Hello, I had a lot of problems with two of my fish recently, but now it's the third that has got a problem. [*]Ammonia Level? 0 [*]Nitrite Level? 0 [*]Nitrate level? 5 [*]Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)? 8.0 [*]Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)? [*]Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API drops [*]Water temperature? 20c [*]Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 30 gals, Over a year [*]What is the name and size of the filter(s)? Fluval U3 [*]How often do you change the water and how much? Once a week, 40-50% [*]How many fish in the tank and their size? 3 (2 x 3 inch, 1x 2 inch) [*]What kind of water additives or conditioners? Dechloinator [*]What do you feed your fish and how often? Sinking pellets and gel food [*]Any new fish added to the tank? No Ok so about a week ago I notice my little fish (Luma) has opaque white patches appearing on his fins, and a tear. I saw George was getting and opaque patch on a lower lobe of his tail fin too. I decided to leave it and see what happened - because my water quality is fine, and because they have been medicated a bit recently and I don't want to throw more meds at them. (Dexter (who is perfectly fine at the moment) recently had severe dropsy, and so I was feeding them on metromeds. This was over a month ago. Luma had kind of...spots coming up every so often (looked like whiteheads - sorry to be graphic! ), at the same time as the dropsy was going on, which cleared up with the metromeds too. George was fine throughout all this. Then about 2 weeks ago I noticed Luma had reddening under his chin, so salted the tank to a very low dose (0.1%), whcih cleared that up overnight. I took the salt out over the course of a week). But now George (who is orange) has 2 white opaque patches on his tail lower lobes, in the middle (not edges), one of which has bloodstreaks in a patch next to it. He also has white opaque patches and small chunks missing at the very edge of the top lobes of his tail fin. He is also bottom sitting quite a bit. Luma's tail has healed up the tear but still has some opaqueness. He often sits in the corner (this is not something new though - I think it is because he is a very poor swimmer and oddly shaped fish who has balance problems - I believe this is mostly due to bad breeding, and partly due to stunting from the tank I had them in for the first 6 months). But he also often hangs at the surface. So...my questions are: - Does this sound like fin rot? - Should I do anything about it or see what happens? I'm leaning towards this, as I believe finrot is not fatal unless it gets bad (?), and then I'll medicate if it gets worse. (I plan to use Interpet Anti fungus and finrot, if any UK members have experience of this). - Any ideas on what could be the underlying cause? I'm pretty sure it is not water quality, and I don't see any fin nipping towards George (though they occasionally have a little peck at Luma if he gets in their way, but he is very good at moving away, and they don't chase him). In Luma I could put this all down to stress (poor swimming and balance) but George is normally ok. My ideas were: 1. The addition and removal of salt did...something, 2. The addition of carbon in the filter did something, 3. something else is stressing them, like flukes. Is this possible? I treated them once for flukes a long time ago, but I doubt I eradicated them completely. And with Luma hanging at the surface and George bottom sitting, could it be flukes impairing gill function? However I haven't seen any flashing. And I don't have the facilities to do a gill scrape. Or 4. It's just a random bout of fin rot? (Is this possible?) Any help is appreciated
  2. Yes, I left a little note on your profile But yes thanks, I got the meds last saturday and they have worked wonders!! I have been feeding for 8 days so 2 more days before I finish. Luma (who was floating uncontrollably and had little white boils coming up on him) now is acting normal and looks absolutely fine, he's swimming how he used to and doing great. And Dexter (who was dropsied with blisters under some scales) has shrunk down so much. His scales are now almost lying flat and theres no more blisters. And he's eating the metro like a little piggy as always I know that the dropsy could come back, and that it may be the epsom that has shrunk him down, but I am hopeful cause he looks so well. So fingers crossed he will be ok even after the metro course finishes. Just a question, do you think I should carry on with epsom in the tank if he is looking better? I did a 50% WC today but haven't redosed. Thanks again for sending the meds, I think it saved my fishies lives!
  3. Sign me up for some metromeds please I don't really need the whole 8 oz though so if someone wants to split it that would be great.
  4. Thanks for your support and providing a bit of hope He looks so awful, but he is still eating and acting normal! The problem is that all antibiotics are prescription-only in the UK. Which I need from a doctor/vet. So I can't get anything which is usually used for american fish from a shop etc. The flagyl is included in this - the stuff off ebay was off Spain, so I think technically it was imported illegally. This is my problem when trying to treat my fish. It makes it a lot harder to do anything effective and it is REALLY frustrating >< There is one listing for flagyl on ebay at the moment, the auction ends in 6-7 days. I may attempt to get that in a few days time. In the mean-time I have ordered some Jungle off an american website that ships internationally, but it may take 5-10 days to arrive. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I could do in the meantime to keep him going? The bubbles/blisters on him are worrying me a lot. Theres about 5 of them. Would salt baths/another treatment with the stuff I have help perhaps? The interpet stuff I have wasn't very effective as far as I can tell, but it's all I have at the moment. It's ingredients are listed in a post I did on the first page. I'm thinking it might at least slow down the infection until the jungle gets here?
  5. Yep, I found a site that ships internationally and I have ordered some now...estimated arrival is 5-10 days though, since it is from america, so I hope that won't be too late. And fingers crossed customs won't bother looking at it too closely! I guess I will just do water changes until then, and hope for the best. Unless I manage to find some meds in this country that will get here before that.
  6. I will sign up to get some of them but I worry that she said she is not placing the order for a couple of weeks, and it may be too late. Thanks for the info on baytril too, but it seems she obtained it from a vet. I might contact my vet and see if they would give me some medication even though they do not treat fish. But I doubt it. I found a site where I can get Jungle anti-bacterial food. Is this any good?
  7. Hello, I'm sorry to just butt in like this but I'm pretty desperate. My thread on my fish is here http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/index.php?/topic/81832-possible-dropsy-s/ One of my fish has dropsy, and possibly another one has some sort of internal infection. I have been advised to try and get hold of metro or baytril (but the baytril will involve injections which scare the life out of me!). If anyone has either of these I would be so appreciative if I could have some! I would be willing to send a cheque to cover the costs but I don't think time is on my side to order some myself...
  8. Ok, I have posted it on your comments. Perhaps you could delete it after? I don't really like my email being widely avaliable, thats all
  9. Hi everyone, I haven't been able to get on the pc for ages so I have missed a lot in this thread. Dexter is still alive but not in a good way. I have to admit I paniced about how everyone was saying metro and I couldn't get it, so I used the interpet stuff I mentioned on the first page. I know it was harsh but my thinking was that: fish don't get better from dropsy by themselves, I can't get metro, so I'm in a no win situation, I may as well use the stuff I have. I did but it doesn't seem to have done anything at all. I QT him for a week while using the meds. I then returned him to the main tank because I don't have a filter for QT. Since then he has got more and more swollen. His scales are now even worse than before, and he has developed about 4 bubbles under his scales. Here is a pic of something similar I found online: http://www.mu.edu/~b...ase/dropsy.html I have no idea what to do. Someone mentioned Baytril, should I get it? I can't inject it but I could make it into gel food or baths. (Edit again: I had a look on that site jennybugs suggested and I need a presciption to order the baytril, which I do not have) Part of me thinks maybe it is too late for him - he looks so awful with his scales and the bubbles. But then on the other hand he is eating and swimming about, and is acting normal!! I don't know what to do. As well as this, one of my other fish is having problems. It looks like he might be starting to swell slightly, but it's very hard to tell cause he's so small and has weird translucent scales. He is the one that has been constipated for a long time despite gel foods. Then the other day I saw him doing a poo and it was completely white. Which is not a good sign I believe. His history: 5 weeks ago lost control of balance, swimming head down, tail up. Very weak. Made slight improvement after about a week of doing insanely long poos (I'm talking about 15cm long per day). Then about a week ago went through a phase of lying on his back on the bottom of the tank. However he would, with great effort, manage to swim up at feeding time. Now he has switched to floating at the top belly-up. Though he is still trying. I'm at my wits end with all this, and feel so guilty, like I could do more but I have no idea what to do. I feel terrible everytime I look at them >< jennybugs, I'm really sorry that your fish didn't make it >< It sounds like you tried very hard to save him. (Edit for info: I'm doing twice weekly water changes of 60% at the moment in the hope this will improve things slightly)
  10. (edit function still not working) Ok I think I found that information on a thread written by you lupin! But on another site. Do you post on aquaria central? Anyway I take it by your review on there that I should not use it. 'Best way to use it IMO is buy it, read the box, show the fish the box, explain that if they don't get better then they're getting this stuff. It will terrify them back to health.' Lol >< Any suggestions on what I CAN use then? Since I cant get metro.
  11. I found a forum thread that said that the active ingredients are: Bronopol 522mg Formaldehyde 900mg Benzalkonium chloride 250mg Are these any good for dropsy?
  12. Ok edit isn't working, but I found some metro on ebay! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RACING-PIGEON-FLAGYL-METRONIDAZOL_W0QQitemZ320482347783QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Collectables_AnimalCollectables_SM?hash=item4a9e3c8b07 Problem is that: 1. I don't know the dosage. This is for pigeons so I could easily underdose/overdose and I have no idea what to do with it. 2. It's an auction not buy it now, so I may not win. Plus it ends in 2 days. Which means it won't be here for at least 4-6 days. Should I go for this or the other unspecified med mentioned above? I can get that med in the tank by tomorrow.
  13. Hm no I don't have one of those. But I have found that if I leave the tank light off the fish are a lot less active and leave him alone nearly all the time. I was thinking I will also add some more plants to the tank so he can be more sheltered. He ate some lettuce yesterday though! So I think I will just see how it goes with him and keep an eye on whether the fish are bothering him. He seems to be improving slowly so perhaps it is not as bad as I thought. Thanks for all your help
  14. The valve I was talking about adds a lot of bubbles to the filter output. So its almost like having a mini bubbler combined with the filter. So I think it will be ok. As for finding some metro...I don't think I can get hold of any. The closest I know to any of those suggestions is my friends dad who is a doctor, but theres no way he can just hand out drugs like that. And my vet doesn't treat fish. A treatment that is avaliable in the UK is Interpet Anti-Internal Bacteria. According to the shop it treats 'internal systemic bacterial infections caused by Pseudomonas, Aeromonas and Vibrio bacteria species'. But I can't seem to find out what the active ingredient is. I will get some tomorrow if you guys think it might be useful? What about epsom salts? Or normal salt? I don't know how to use them but I think I can get them. Um...do fish ever survive dropsy without metro medication..? >< He was so healthy and is acting so normal, it's hard to believe that he is seriously ill....though he is really swollen up now.
  15. Thanks for looking for meds for me He's still eating just fine and acting normal. I don't have a bubbler but I am using the venturi valve on my internal filter, so it bubbles in the surface of the water.
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