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  1. Good luck. Try feeding him several times a day, with the amount of food to be around 2% of his body weight. The full course of meds should be 14 days.

    Also, I would add in extra water changes during this time. If you can do 50% WCs daily, that would be excellent :)

    im trying to feed him but its really hard im not able to put it in his mouth

  2. I have never heard or thought of using vaseline, I don't think it's something I would try as it might have adverse effects on the fish. I think there are alternatives to bio bandage but I can't remember exactly what, hopefully someone else who knows will post.

    As for how t his happened, there are a lot of possible causes for swim bladder issues including but not limited to bacterial infections, kidney disorders, gas from the fish's diet, tumors or pressure on the swim bladder due to how the fish has grown and developed.

    So right now, he's floating on his side and not really eating?

    yes hes on his side floating and hes not eating :( do u think I should feed him medicated food? like metro meds or medi gold?

  3. Is the fish showing signs of dropsy? (scales sticking out, bloating)

    That is normally why we use epsom salt, not really for swim bladder issues. Often floating will come before dropsy because it is a sign of kidney issues, but unless you see the symptoms I don't think the epsom is necessary.

    I agree with Alex that your water parameters are a bit of a puzzle. A 20 gallon tank with two large-ish fish should definitly be registering nitrates. Are there plants in the tank?

    And as for the red side from floating, some members have successfully used a product called bio bandage to help fish with that issue. It acts as a barrier between the fish's sensitive skin and the air.

    oh ok so i would do a big water change and remove the salt... no he is not showing signs of dropsy, im just wondering how this happened tho??? i dont have any plants in the tank, im gonna test the water tommaro again before and after the wc...if i cant find bio bandage is it save to use vaseline???

  4. Hehe. I didn't mean to ask when it was cycled. I just wanted to know how long it has been running to guess if it's cycled. From the look of things, it definitely is.

    Let me ask you a few more questions, to see if I could gather more info for others who will be reading the thread.

    Did you just discover her floating sideways one day, or were symptoms different, eventually leading to being floaty sideways?

    actually he just stared floating side ways this week , last week he was swimming only on top but normally and he was eating by him self last week, its just this week hes been like this ... I will take a pic and post it up tonight ...

  5. Ok, so this is a brand new tank, with no cycled media. Thank you for the clarification. :)

    How old is your test kit? I have a really hard time grasping the concept that two weeks into a new tank, with 2x/day feeding that your tank has zeros across the board for all the nitrogenous products.

    my test kit is brand new , I have media from my other tank...i dunno but thats what the test read yesterday

  6. I'm sorry your fish is having problems. I hope the forum members can help with useful advice/suggestions :)

    I am a tad confused with your tank parameters. Is this tank cycled? Your answers indicate that it's only been set up for 2 weeks; you do 50% WC weekly, and there is absolutely 0 ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate in the system.

    yeah i just tested my water yesterday after the wc and thats what it read...i dont think its cycled yet it cant be right? ...

    • * Ammonia Level 0
    • * Nitrite Level 0
    • * Nitrate level 0
    • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.6
    • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? api drops
    • * Water temperature? 75 F
    • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 20 gallon just set up 2 weeks ago
    • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? penguin 350

    * How often do you change the water and how much? usually 50% every week

    • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? i changed 50 % yesterday
    • * How many fish in the tank and their size? 2 fishes one 6 " and 4 "
    • * What kind of water additives or conditioners? prime
    • * What do you feed your fish and how often? twice a day
    • * Any new fish added to the tank? no
    • * Any medications added to the tank? epson salt
    • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
    • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? yes

    * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? hes only on top

    Ok so its been a week that he hasent been eating by himself , last week he was eating and swimming good , hes lying on top of the tank side ways breathing, half of his side is red since only half of his body is in the water.... I put epson salt in the water yesterday, I feed him peas with epson salt in it he ate it but hes not eating much and its really hard feeding him since hes not able to eat by himself... any suggestions?

  7. Do you have an updated picture?

    If you already fed the MMs for full course and did the epson etc I really recommend you let him be for a while. The issue with dropsy is that it weakens the organs. If you keep trying different meds it will eventually lead to organ failure.

    Just do lots of water changes and make him nourishing gel food with garlic and probiotics. This will hopefully help get him immunity a bit stronger.

    how do I make him gel food with probiotics and garlic? I will post up some pics of him I took lastnight

  8. None of the treatments presented to you are particularly effective against dropsy...triple sulfa is pretty aggressive and should not be used lightly. Pimafix/Melafix is for external minor issues. Can you get a hold of Metro-Meds or Jungle antiparasite?

    I feed Metro-Meds already for 14 or 15 days...

  9. ok so I went to the fish store and I told the guy about my fish and how hes sick , one guy said I should try to use Triple Sulfa and this other guy said to try Melafix and Pimafix together... confused ... dont know If I should use anything.... my fishey is looking better he got back his color in his face but hes still bottom sitting , he eats well but hes always sittind at the bottom of the tank at one cornor... spacer.gif

  10. I think you might have to consider taking a break from meds. It could be that this is an organ issue caused from overmedicating.

    Finish the 2 weeks of MMs and then just let him be in super clean water.

    ok but should I still use the epson salt in the tank? or so I do a 100% clean

  11. Just wanted to stop by and wish you and your fish well (hes a beautiful goldfish :)) I myself am dealing with a dropsy fish and awaiting meds atm :)

    Thanks :)

    He is SO beautiful.. and I am having problems with mine as well so I know how you feel.. Good luck!

    Good luck also :)

  12. Gosh so sorry about you fish.. he's so beautiful :) I hope he pulls through .. unfortunately Ive been fighting with dropsy too! I'm rooting for you!! :angelstaf:

    Our first round was successfully treated w/ metromeds as well.. usually people don't use the medigold unless the metro doesn't work.. I hope he pulls through!!

    Thanks :) I really hope he pulls thr also hes about 4 yrs old, hes my biggest and oldest goldie... I am trying to buy metro meds , I live in canada so its really hard to find that...

  13. Can you try some peas? He has been on antibiotics quite some time and they didn't help.

    Is the dropsy all over? Do you have epsom in there? It should help.

    If you cant get another bubbler, making more splash on the surface would help dissolve oxygen.

    hes not eating the peas, I tryed yesterday, I have epsom salt in the tank, hes not eating progold, and yes he has dropsy all over, he didnt eat anything all day yesterday, I just tryed to feed him anti bacteria medicated fish food from jungle and he ate it, Im not sure if I should cont feeding this or should I buy the other medicated food from jungle that was mention jungle AP food? this one that im feeding him aids in kidney wasting...

  14. Hey Sally I'm from Montreal too and I'm having the same problem with the heat. I had a pretty good bubbler in the tank too but Hercules got very bad red veins in his tail and was bottom sitting too. I ended up buying a whisper air pump designed for a 60 gallon tank (my tank is only 20 gallons) and adding some bubble walls so that the whole tank surface has bubbles and Hercules perked right up. The red veins are also disappearing. I think with the increased heat you just need even more bubbles in the tank than usual. :)

    your from montreal also thats awsom, Yeah I put in a bubbler yesterday and im really happy to say I saw an improvment this morning, I just gotta order some food for him cuz hes not eating progold anymore :(

  15. Yes the Medigold feeding for 2 months is a long time. Best stop asap. As everyone has rightly said kanamycin in it can cause renal failure and dropsy sometimes as can over use of antbiotics.

    I would add epsom as described and watch those water parameters like a hawk, you dont seem to have a cycle and he wont heal up unless the water is 100% perfect. That includes stable pH (I see it looks stable that is good) and MUCH more oxygen in 86 degrees water temp :o. That is very hot water.

    You should maybe invest in another bubbler instead of any more medication right now as hot water removes a high percentage of oxygen from the water..

    Thanks for responding, I have a bubbler in the tank already :) should I feed him Metro-Meds or just feed him pro gold or any other food for now?

  16. Those meds are pretty hard on the fish and should only be used as a last resort.

    Can you get jungle AP food? It has metro.

    Have you added epsom? If not, add in 1/4 teaspoon per every 10 gallons.

    I would stop the medigold asap. Like Fede said, it is very hard on the kidneys and might be the cause of the dropsy (not saying that it is though).

    yeah i added the epsom salt already, i just ordered the Metro-Meds, im trying to look for jungle ap food, thanks for the info... i will stop feeling him medi gold

  17. hi there. sorry about your fish.

    he does indeed have dropsy. let's see. has he actually EATEN any medigold? I think an ingredient in it isn't good for the kidneys, therefore not good for dropsy fish. Can you just tell us how many days he has eaten it? (because I see bloodworms in the pics).

    Do you by any chance have METROMEDS? Those are much better for dropsy (but only if you haven't already started the medigold.

    I would do large daily water changes (temp and pH matched water) - large enough to get lots of gunk out but not enough to stress him.

    as for the water temp SLOWLY take it down to about 80. your temp is too stressful for goldies without LOTS of oxygen. It isn't work the risk.

    I would also advise Potassium Permanganate baths but I think it is an illegal substance in Canada so you might have issues finding it.

    thanks for replying... yes ive been feeling him medi gold for a few mths cux hes been sick like this for a few mth but i never seen his scales like this only a few days now, i just feed him peas and he didnt eat any, hes been eating medi gold, im gonna try to get metromeds i might have to order it from the usa ,

    what do u mean about blood worms? i havent feed him any for awhile?

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