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  1. Believe me, I am gonna keep asking for the fish! I might get it because my niece wants some tropical fish (prolly guppies), so maybe they will give it to me. I told them tonite that they could not have anymore fish in the 10g tank, unless they switch to tropical fish, and they did not like that. They want more fish, so maybe they will give me that beautiful tele!!!! :(

  2. Okay, my niece spent the nite with us last nite and she was telling me about her fish. She asked me to test the water in the tank for her today when I brought her home, so I brought my water tests kits, some crushed coral, an extra syphon, etc.

    This is the first time I have ever really seen the fish. It was a beautiful black tele, about 3.5" w/out tail, in a 10G.

    The first thing I noticed in the tank was that there was about 4" of gravel and a huge castle ornament, hollow.

    I asked my brother when the last time the water was changed and he said, "about 4 months ago"!

    I tested the water in the tank and I SWEAR to you all, this was the results:

    ammonia: 8.0!!!!

    nitrite: 0

    nitrate: 80!!!!!

    ph: 6.0


    Someone PLEASE tell me how a fish can survive in this?????? :blink:

    So here I am, wondering what to do for this fish. I decided to do a 90% wc right away. I took the ornament out and syphoned the gravel. The water coming out of the gravel was BROWN, like muddy water!!!! I would have done a 100% wc, but my sil kept telling me to hurry up as she had stuff she had to do?!? Like I was holding her up or something????

    I then took out enough gravel til there was only about a 1/2" layer and left some bare bottom in the tank. I added two silk plants in votives and told them not to put the castle back in. I added some baking soda to bring the ph up and coral to bring the kh up (it was 50 out of the tap). The ONE thing they were doing right was adding Stress Coat to the water!!!! So, I added some of that, too. I was going to clean the filter pads and lo and behold, there were NONE in the filter!!! The filter was completely empty!!!! The filter was also too small for the tank. No surprise there!!!!

    I then BEGGED my brother to give me the fish and he would not.

    I tested the new water in the tank and the ammonia was still at 4.0 and the nitrate had only come down to about 60. I instructed my niece on how to do another big wc and add stuff to the water, etc. I told her I would bring her another filter for the tank, with pads, and try to help her as much as possible with the tank, but I could make no promises about the fish living. I told them it should have died a long time ago. :( I did what I could, but I am sure they will not keep the tank clean and try to bring those toxic params down. It is so sad!!!! :cry1

  3. Thanks JOH! Nope, the nitrates in the tap are still at 5. They are raising in the tank. The funny thing is, the nitrites have not gotten above .25 yet and the ammonia is almost non existant (sp?).

    The ammo, nitrite, & nitrate can co-exist for a while before the tank fully cycles. I would think that for the Nitrate to hit 15(20-5), the tank is closing in on the final stages of cycling.

    I know this is hard to believe Nickie and you may even be in denial, lol but your tank will cycle eventually. Trust me on this. :rofl

    I hope your right!!! I do trust you! LOL!

    Thanks JOH! Nope, the nitrates in the tap are still at 5. They are raising in the tank. The funny thing is, the nitrites have not gotten above .25 yet and the ammonia is almost non existant (sp?).

    You seem close Nickie! Seems the KH was a big part of your problem! If your tank has gotten some of the 2nd-type (nitrite->nitrate) bacteria, then its not really all that funny that your nitrates have started to rise without your nitrites ever jumping much. As soon as the nitrites form, they immediately start being converted into nitrates.

    In fact you may find out that these 'almost zero' number are actually zero. I've found that depending on the quality of light, etc, the zero color on the color cards may be a tiny bit off from the color you see. Technically, most instructions say you should pick the 'closest color', and not average as we humans naturally do. If the closest color is definitely the zero, and it stays that way for a while, it may just be zero.

    Thanks so much! I guess the only thing I can do is keep an eye on the params and PRAY!!!

  4. Yes, the tap is still 5 on the nitrates. I wonder if I may have had some BB's on that bio-pad that I transferred to my new filter from my old one and maybe that helped? It is so weird to me because (as far as I could tell) I had no cycle going at all and then BOOM, my cycle starts. Now, the nitrites are barely climbing at all and the nitrates are getting higher. This has only been a few days!!!

  5. My cycle just started a few days ago. I have nitrates out of my tap of 5. However, what I am noticing is that while I hardly have any ammonia or nitrItes, my nitrates are rising very rapidly! This is not normal in a newly cycling tank is it?

    I have been keeping a diary of my water params and this is the pattern that has been going on since I first noticed the cycle. As an example:

    2-9-08 11:17am

    Ammonia: Very close to zero

    Ph: 7.8

    NitrIte: 0-.25

    NitrAte: 5-10

    Salt: .1%

    I did not do a wc yesterday, but added Prime to the tank

    2-9-08 10:00pm

    Ammonia: Close to zero

    NitrIte: 0-.25

    NitrAte: 8-10

    ph: 7.8

    KH: 89.5

    2-10-08 10:38am

    Ammonia: Almost zero

    NitrIte: 0-.25

    NitrAte: Almost 20

    ph: 7.8

    Salt: Still at .1%

    Why are my nitrates climbing faster than the nitrites? I though the nitrites were supposed to come first? Any suggestions are appreciated.

  6. I would use Cycle for the recommended time it says to on the bottle. As for adding another fish, I would go with a telescope, but I am sure a Rukin could be okay with your moor. Do you have any salt in your tank now? What are your water params? Ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and Ph?

    Btw, the Top Finn 30 your are using only filters 150gph and you need at least 200gph on your 20g tank. You may want to add another filter to bring that up.

  7. I was wondering about this. A week ago, I changed out my two filters that I had and put on new ones. I was using an Aqua-Tech 20-40 and a Whisper 10-30. I had these on my tank since I set it up in Oct.. A few days before I changed them out, I added coral to my tank to try and get my KH and PH up. I had also started using baking soda for about two weeks. A few days after I changed out the filters my cycle started.

    I realize that the coral had something to do with that. However, my ph had gone up for two weeks before I changed out the filters and the baking soda had brought my Kh up to 71.6.

    I changed out to two Penguin filters. A 100B and a 350B.

    My kh and ph had been brought up for about two weeks before I changed out to the new filters. I wsa just wondering if bio-wheel filters promote better water circulation and oxygen and maybe that was what got my cycle started, along with the higher ph and kh?

    I mean, let's face it, my ph and kh were already up for about two weeks before I put on the new filters. When I changed to the new filters, I took one of my bio-pads from the Aqua-tech and placed it in my 350B; suddenly, my cycle started. :blink:

    Can a certain type of filter be better for cycling than another?

  8. Yesterday, my water params were:

    Ph: 7.7

    Ammonia: Below .25

    Nitrite: Below .25

    Kh: 89.5

    Salt: .1%

    I did not do a wc yesterday, but added a double-dose of Prime.

    Today, my params are:

    Ph: 7.8

    Ammonia: .25

    Nitrite: Right at .25 (may be a tad shade lighter than .25, but close to it)

    Kh: 89.5

    Salt: .1%

    Should I do a wc today at all, or just add more Prime? Please someone let me know! Thanks!!!

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