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  1. I was just wondering about goldfish shows. Does anyone on this board show their little darlings??? I'd love to enter a fish or two into a show, but don't know the first thing about it.

    I have commons and comets in the pond and some of them are really lovely -- well at least to me they are. Is there a catagory in shows for the lowly little single-tailed common or comets?

  2. What I don't understand is WHY do some people not see fish as animals or pets??? Just like the comment that was made earlier where the lasy said that "she would just replace it"! It makes me SOOOO mad to see this! To me, my fish are just important to me as my cats are. They are all my PETS and I don't consider any of them to be expendable. Thanks for letting me vent! LOL!

    Nickie

    I feel the same way. I've heard people say, "Well it's just a fish." Or, "It's just a cat." "It's just a -------." I don't get it. These are people who go to church, are against ABORTION, they're upstanding citizens, and yet they have no feelings for the lives of animals..... It even says in the Bible that we are to care for our animals.... I DO NOT GET THESE PEOPLE!

    Sorry to vent. But I get so angry.

    On another note, I wonder WHY pet shops even sell fish bowls to begin with? Sure, they're ok for bettas, but a betta is far better suited to a temp of 78-80 degrees F. which you can't get in a bowl. A 2 gallon or five gallon tank with a filter and heater is so much better for bettas.

    Frankly, I can't see any fish that would be happy and live a long life in a bowl. Those bowls ought to be outlawed, or recycled........

    You can put a plant in it, LOL...... Or some dog bones, LOL. How about as pretty lanterns with glass beads and candles on the table??? A flower vase???

    What are some other uses for fish bowls??? Anyone???

  3. Ruykin,

    What about fasting the fish, have you tried that? Sometimes withholding food for three or four days breaks up the impaction (if that's what it is in your fish) and returns the fish to normal.....

    Can your vet aspirate the swim bladder in the fish??? Aspiration is when the vet sticks a needle in the fish to drain air from the swim bladder.... Koivet.com says that it's not a cure, but does provide some relief.

    I'm sorry you're going through this. Been there.

  4. So sorry for your loss Nickie. I lost my favorite fish this summer too and it was very hard. I LOVED that fish. People just don't understand how you cold be so attached to a fish, but you DO get attached to them.

    Sorry for your loss. It sounds like you were a really good fish-owner, and that you did all you could for your pet. She was a lucky fish to have you.

  5. You could fashion a cage out of two perforated lily baskets for the pump, that way it would be easy to access the pump for cleaning. Water lily baskets can be found wherever they sell water plants. I've even seen them at Home Depot and Lowes. For that matter, you could even fashion one yourself with black plastic craft mesh and fishing line. Use the fishing line to "sew" up the sides of the plastic craft mesh, making a box and put the pump in that. No need to bury the intake in gravel, although doing that would work too.

    Your pond sounds wonderful. :-)

  6. You could get a water lily or two and maybe a water iris. Submerged plants like anacharis will provide spawning area.

    Water hyacinth lives only in the summer in your pond. You throw it away after the first frost in the fall, then buy more in the spring. It's a great plant and you'll want a couple to help shade the surface of the pond. It grows quickly, so buy just two or three at the beginning of the season.

    Your fish plan sounds really good too. They will breed and you'll have to rehome some of the babies. I had to rehome about 40 babies last summer, after 14 years of having my pond. I don't raise the fry inside, so I usually only get a few babies that make it to maturity in my pond. The fish load has grown gradually over the years.

  7. I bought a laguna Max-Flow 2900 GPH last year from azponds.com and have really liked it a lot. It's done an excellent job of handling the water in my pond. I like the cage/basket it comes in as that keeps fish and large plant matter out.

    The Max-Flow line also has a 600 GPH pump as well, so you may want to look at that.

    As for aeration, you may want to add an air pump and airstones to the pond. A submersible water pump is not going to do anything about adding air to the pond. It's just going to move water, unless you pump the water up over a trickle tower or something. That would increase air flow, but an additional airstone or two works just as well.

  8. You can also get leaf netting or bridal netting from the fabric store and use that. Take the netting and run a length of bamboo pole down each side. The length of the netting should be as wide as the widest part of your pond. Then get another person -- you need two people for this. Put the netting in the pond on each side and push it all the way to the bottom, BEING CAREFUL NOT TO PUNCTURE YOUR LINER WITH THE BAMBOO STICKS!

    Slowly walk forward stretching the netting wider as you come to the midpoint of the pond. The fish should start moving with the net to the other side of the pond. At some point you will have all the fish at one end of the pond and be able to net out the fish you want to treat. My pond is 28 feet long and 5.5 feet wide and I do this all the time when I need to catch fish. They just laugh at my little green net, LOL. We have to get the whole bunch of them corralled at one end of the pond in order to get one out. It takes practice, but you can do it.

    I used to treat Popeye with Marycyn. Melafix won't do the job, especially if the eye pops all the way out. Is there the possibility that the fish was injured on something in the pond?

  9. Shamu is right. Can you take the regular goldfish back to the pet shop and trade it for another fancy tailed variety? In my experience, common, flat-tailed goldfish can really bully the fancy tailed varieties around. A common should not be with a moor, IMO.......

    Also, you should consider a 29 gallon tank for your goldfish as a start. If you really need to use the little 2 gallon tank you bought, then get a small 25 watt heater and a betta. A betta would be ideal in a smaller tank as long as you had the heat. They like it around 76 degrees F.

    :) I know you love your goldies, but you need to act as fast as you can to get them into bigger quarters. In the meantime you should change half the water in the bowl each day to keep dangerous ammonia from building up and killing your fish. Use the de-chlor to neutralize harmful chlorine.

  10. If you dig a hole two feet deep, the liner leaves you with a pond approximately six feet by eight feet. That's a good start for comets, shubbies and commons. Are you planning on adding a filter? The kit includes a pump, but doesn't mention a filter..... Without a good filter you won't be able to have as many fish.

    I'm very excited for you shamu! :)

  11. Shamu,

    350 gallons is not big enough for koi. I'm guessing that the pond isn't over 24 inches deep, so koi wouldn't really have a lot of room to move around, and they get big fast! Koi keepers typically build six to eight foot deep ponds for their koi and they have no plants, and massive filtration. It isn't uncommon to see ponds bigger than swimming pools, stocked with just ten or twelve koi....... Ideally, koi should have about 1000 gallons per fish to accomodate their potential growth.

    I've had wonderful luck with shubunkins and comets in my 2000 gallon planted pond. They get along really well, but don't seem to tolerate fancy tailed varieties. Every fancy goldfish I've put in with them has died, so I'm just sticking to the shubbies and comets for now.... You might want to stock all fancy varieties or all commons..... In the winter there you might have to consider bringing in fancy goldfish, but commons and shubbies would probably do fine with a de-icer

    As for winter care, a bubbler will work, but IMO a de-icer is better. A bubbler brings the warmer water from the bottom of the pond (where the fish hang out in the winter) to the top of the pond. It can super cool the water which is not good. Also, a bubbler can freeze over and you'd have to go out and gently break the ice dome over it.... A de-icer just floats at the top of the pond and keeps a hole open in the ice. You just plug it in and it works and the water stays still, providing layers for the fish to stay in... Buy a metal cage for it, to keep it from touching the sides of your pond.

    I think you'd be happy with the 350 gallon pond if the price is about the same as the 150. The larger the pond, the easier it is to balance it out and the less chance for water quality issues. And the more fish you can have, of course! :) I'm very excited for you. You'll really enjoy a pond of your own. :pond

  12. Jave fern is probably the easiest to grow for a beginner. It doesn't need a ton of light and will make a nice display in the tank. Java moss is also easy.

    My goldfish in the pond LOVE anacharis. They nibble on it so that would be good for your goldie, but it does need a lot of light to thrive. In an indoor tank you could try a bunch and see if it works. If not, let the fish eat it, then buy some more.

    I think it's great that you're going with live plants. Your goldfish will love them.

  13. Plecos also get very large. I had one in a 12 gallon tank and had to give it to a friend with a 55 gallon tank because it outgrew my tank within a year.

    Can't you scrape the algae off the tank? I let it grow on the back wall of the tank and the sides. The goldfish in my pond eat it, so it might be something you'd want to leave in there.

    Sorry you lost the pleco.

  14. I like it in principle, but I keep a couple of air stones running off an air pump in my pond for added air..... I don't see that it would be hard to make, since it attaches to the outflow. You could make it with PVC plumbing parts. It's an interesting idea.

  15. Also being as you haven't kept a pond before it would be a good idea to start small and grow in your experience before trying to tackle something huge.

    I agree with Ryukinluver. A natural pond would be cool if it JUST had goldfish/koi, but native fish LOVE to eat goldfish and koi, and what they don't kill, they harass until they die anyway. Native fish and goldfish/koi DO NOT go together. The idea to section off a portion of the pond is interesting, but it would be impossible to medicate if you needed to or catch fish if they needed out-of-the-pond treatment. (Like the two I had to catch to have scraped and scoped for a parasite recentely -- it was hard enough catching them in my 2000 gallon pond, much less a natural earth bottom pond).... Which brings me to another point -- Koi and goldfish LOVE to root around in earth bottom pond and muck up the water. You'd never see them. In Japan they use HUGE earth bottom ponds to grow out koi, but there are no other fish in these ponds and they don't care if they don't see the koi. They use big nets to haul them in when they want to take them to market.

    Sorry kiddo, the natural pond idea seems great on the surface, but it's probably not the best choice for your fish. And you want what's best for them don't you? I like the idea of starting somewhat small -- even with a rubbermaid horse trough that you sink in the ground. You can get them in 100, 150, and 300 gallons, so they aren't tiny. You'll learn with that and dig a monster pond later, when you get your mom hooked, LOL.

    Put it close to your patio where you can enjoy it. :)

  16. Or how about a 55 gallon set up. Those are pretty common and can be had for about $200. It's a good size for commons, if you can't dig a pond, LOL.

    If you want something with more color, get a shubunkin to go with your common. The colors are so interesting and they have the same body shape. I keep commons, comets and shubunkins together in my outdoor pond and they get along swimmingly! :rolleyes:

  17. I was just thinking last night how much I was like that too when I was Shamu's age. I wanted a dolphin tank and an animal shelter! LOL. We moved a lot so I had small tanks of assorted things -- sometimes fish, sometimes terarriums, sometimes little furry critters. I was a magnet for anything with a broken wing or sad story, and later became a wildlife rehabilitator when I grew up and got married. Homeless animals always seem to make their way here.

    Shamu, you will eventually have the pond you dream of. I didn't get a dolphin tank, but my pond is just as satisfying. Besides, I think I would have gone broke feeding a dolphin, LOL. :)

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