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Share Your Gel Food Recipes For Floaters


dnalex

I know that the forum has a wealth of information of great foods for goldfish, including gel foods. However, I would like to collate some of the info, specifically on gel food that has been tested and verified to work for confirmed floaters. Please share your recipes here :)

I'll start. This is my latest recipe, and I am 100% pleased with it. I've had other recipes that work, but this one by far is the best, simply because I think it gives good nutrition, awesome food consistency, and not even a hint of floatiness, at least for my fish :)

Alex's No-Float Yummy Agar Gel Recipe:

- 6 oz canned or bagged tuna (low sodium is best). Substitute: steamed fresh fish (weigh before steaming).

- 2 jars (8 oz) Gerbers baby food. I've used peas, carrots, and mixed vegetables. Substitute: 4 oz veggies cooked and then puree with 1/2 cup spring or distilled water. (Do not use broccoli [gas] or spinach [interferes with calcium absorption in same food])

- boil two eggs and use only the egg whites

- blend this together until you get a nice thick pur?e consistency.

- 4 teaspoons of highly quality food like Pro-Gold

- 1 multivitamin

- 1 probiotic tablet

- 1/2 teaspoon garlic

- 1/2 teaspoon koi clay

- crush pellets etc. to a powder, and mix together.

- in a pot with lid, add 2-3 tablespoons of agar to 1.5 cups distilled spring/distilled water and turn heat on high

- add the fish eggs mixture and stir slowly but well

- cover with lid and let mixture come to a boil

- once boiling, occasionally lift lid to stir mixture, and let boil for about 3 minutes.

- remove from heat

- in about 5-10 minutes, when mixture has not yet congealed and is warm but touchable, add powder mixture and stir slowly but well

Pour into baking pan. Leave at room temp for 1 hour. By this time you should see a very well gelled product. Cover with Saran wrap and refrigerate for 3-4 hours. Then, cut into 1 inch cubes and freeze. Thaw before using. Thaw enough to feed only for 2-3 days max.

For maintenance, feed 1% body weight daily once or several times a day. For growth, 2% - 3% divided into 3-6 meals/day.

Note on agar: I use 3 teaspoons for my recipe. The texture is relatively hard and the fish will have to chew a bit more. I do this intentionally so that the hogs don't inhale everything. To make it softer, use 2 tablespoons. You must make sure to cook the agar as shown above to ensure melting of agar and binding of the mixture :)


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Just thought I would add another recipe that's confirmed not to cause floating. This one I like even better than the original, and it has done away with Pro-Gold :)

Alex's No-Float Yummy Agar Gel Recipe, Part II:

- 8.1 oz low-sodium bagged tuna (3 bags of 2.7 oz each).

- 2 jars (8 oz) Gerbers baby food. For this recipe, I use 1 jar of peas and 1 jar of green beans.

- three eggs

- blend this together until you get a nice purée consistency.

- 4 Tablespoons of toasted (raw is OK, too) wheat germ

- 1/2 teaspoon garlic

- 1/2 teaspoon koi clay

- 1 multivitamin

- 1 probiotic packet

- crush pellets etc. to a powder, add a small amount of water, and mix together. Set aside.

- in a pot with lid, add 3 tablespoons of agar to 2 cups distilled spring/distilled water and turn heat on high

- when the water starts to boil, turn down heat to medium, add puree, wheat germ, koi clay, garlic and stir slowly but well. If you have a whisk, use that.

- cover with lid, turn heat on high again, and let mixture come to a boil

- once boiling, occasionally lift lid to stir mixture, and let boil for about 2 minutes.

- remove from heat

- in about 5-10 minutes, when mixture has not yet congealed and is warm but touchable, add probiotic/vitamin mixture and stir slowly but well. I actually use a meat thermometer to check on the temp of the mix prior to adding this. The temp should be below 110F, so that your vitamins don't get degraded and the probiotics don't get killed.

Pour into pan, let set at room temp first and then transfer to fridge for a few hours. Cut into 1 inch cubes, and freeze. Done :)

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I made some last night. I got to 2 jars of babie food. one was peas are carrots the other was green beans and zucciane( not sure on spelling). can of drain tuna 1 1/2 cups of water. 1 multivitamin 1 probiotic packet 4 table spoons for pro gold fish food. 3 packs of the knotc geltine (could not find agr agr) I dont have flooters. the only think I boil was the water to do the geltine took it off the fire want to add the mix. For the Mix I dump both jars of food into a bowl added everthing into the bowl and let it sit while the the water was boiling and cooling. I used my meat gun to see how hot it was when it got back down to 100 I added the mix. I did not purée consistency, but I broken down the tuna by hand. Gave my fish that after it was geled and they LOVE IT.

I was it inportant to add Egg. I for got about the Egg? Is it going to hurt my fish with out it?

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Just thought I would add another recipe that's confirmed not to cause floating. This one I like even better than the original, and it has done away with Pro-Gold :)

Alex's No-Float Yummy Agar Gel Recipe, Part II:

- 8.1 oz low-sodium bagged tuna (3 bags of 2.7 oz each).

- 2 jars (8 oz) Gerbers baby food. For this recipe, I use 1 jar of peas and 1 jar of green beans.

- three eggs

- blend this together until you get a nice purée consistency.

- 4 Tablespoons of toasted (raw is OK, too) wheat germ

- 1/2 teaspoon garlic

- 1/2 teaspoon koi clay

- 1 multivitamin

- 1 probiotic packet

- crush pellets etc. to a powder, add a small amount of water, and mix together. Set aside.

- in a pot with lid, add 3 tablespoons of agar to 2 cups distilled spring/distilled water and turn heat on high

- when the water starts to boil, turn down heat to medium, add puree, wheat germ, koi clay, garlic and stir slowly but well. If you have a whisk, use that.

- cover with lid, turn heat on high again, and let mixture come to a boil

- once boiling, occasionally lift lid to stir mixture, and let boil for about 2 minutes.

- remove from heat

- in about 5-10 minutes, when mixture has not yet congealed and is warm but touchable, add probiotic/vitamin mixture and stir slowly but well. I actually use a meat thermometer to check on the temp of the mix prior to adding this. The temp should be below 110F, so that your vitamins don't get degraded and the probiotics don't get killed.

Pour into pan, let set at room temp first and then transfer to fridge for a few hours. Cut into 1 inch cubes, and freeze. Done :)

I really want to try this ^_^

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- 1 multivitamin

- 1 probiotic packet

- crush pellets etc. to a powder, add a small amount of water, and mix together. Set aside.

I did have a question about this though, the multivitamin what kind is it? Also what do you use for the probiotic packet? The crush pellets are just normal any kind of goldfish pellets? Sorry about that I just want to make sure I pick up the right thing ;) Thank you

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- 1 multivitamin

- 1 probiotic packet

- crush pellets etc. to a powder, add a small amount of water, and mix together. Set aside.

I did have a question about this though, the multivitamin what kind is it? Also what do you use for the probiotic packet? The crush pellets are just normal any kind of goldfish pellets? Sorry about that I just want to make sure I pick up the right thing ;) Thank you

I just use the regular multivitamin for humans.

This is the probiotic packet I use

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I don't really use crushed up pellets anymore, but toasted wheat germ.

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I used tithra's recipe (roughly) and made gel food a few months ago. My tele, Mr. Moto, tends to be floaty, and the gel food seemed to help a lot. Well, I ran out a few days ago (it lasted a loooooong time!) but I was too lazy to make more, so I started feeding Haki Sakari sinking pellets again. Mr. Moto was fine, right? and pellets are easy.

Mistake. Mr. Moto quickly got sick again - it was heartbreaking to see him floating tail up or even belly-up in the tank and struggling to reach the bottom of the tank. Peas didn't help much. So I whipped up a batch of gel food. (OMG it is so foul smelling! GAK!)

That was yesterday. Mr. Moto is fine today - swimming easily and beautifully in all zones of the tank. Thanks, dnalex and tithra! Agar gel food really helps Mr. Moto! And the pearlies love it too.

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I made a gel food just a couple days ago, so I have yet to see if it helps with the floaties yet, but it was improvised off of a lot of your guys' recipes and a couple other online resources I found, so hopefully it works! I had to use gelatin though, we didn't have agar agar locally.

Here's my recipe:

1 cup API pellets

1/2 cup Hikari daphnia

1/4 cup Nutrafin spirulina flakes

2 sheets of Sally's Seaweed Salad (Natural dried poryphyra yezoensis seaweed)

1 cup romaine lettuce

1 cup kale

1 cup spinach

4 containers of Gerber Garden Vegetables baby food (carrots, peas, water, spinach)

2 containers of Gerber Squash baby food (squash, water)

3 tbsp canned pumpkin (100% natural pumpkin)

1 tablespoon minced garlic (organic garlic, water)

1 tsp basil (organic basil, water)

unflavored gelatin

I soaked the pellets, daphnia, spirulina flakes, and ripped up pieces of seaweed in 2 cups of water for about 45 minutes, then added it to the other ingredients that had been chopped and mixed up, and pureed it all together. Then I set it with the gelatin, poured it into a glass cake pan, let chill for 8 hours (I went to bed, lol). I then cut it into small cubes, and spread it on a cookie sheet and froze it for 2 hours. Afterwards, I put it in a ziploc bag, and stuck it back in the freezer.

This is a site I used that helped me a lot when picking ingredients for nutritional value: http://www.allnaturalpetcare.com/Formulating_DIY_Homemade_Tropical_Fish_Food_Nutrition.html

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During normal times, I don't think it's really too different. Because they are pond fish and have plenty of algae etc to nibble on all day, you can feed them floating foods and not really have to worry about them being particularly floaty. You can still feed them sinking pellets and gel foods if you like. During colder weather, you will have to decide of whether to feed or just to feed wheat germ-based foods when it's cooler. Shakaho says that her single tails are smart enough to know when they should not eat, while the fancies have no such disinclination.

This thread is focused on foods to help goldfish that are particularly prone to floatiness. Do you have any outside fish that are being floaty?

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During normal times, I don't think it's really too different. Because they are pond fish and have plenty of algae etc to nibble on all day, you can feed them floating foods and not really have to worry about them being particularly floaty. You can still feed them sinking pellets and gel foods if you like. During colder weather, you will have to decide of whether to feed or just to feed wheat germ-based foods when it's cooler. Shakaho says that her single tails are smart enough to know when they should not eat, while the fancies have no such disinclination.

This thread is focused on foods to help goldfish that are particularly prone to floatiness. Do you have any outside fish that are being floaty?

My Ryukin, Swimmy, gets floaty only when she poops, and floats head down. Looks rather pathetic lol

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Only floaty when she poops? I'm confused.

Anyway, if there are issues, you should start a thread. Otherwise, I would recommend any of these recipes, Repashy Gel food, or any other diet that lacks starchy fillers.

The other strong possibility is that you are overfeeding.

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Yeah, I dunno. Strange little fish...

I was asking because I wasn't sure, since they are out side, if there would be any ingredients I wouldn't need to add (i know too much of something can be bad) or would need more of, or something extra.

I'll give these a try and see how they help Swimmy :)

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Hi everyone! I think I'm going to get off of giving my fish flake food and try gel food...

So, I'm just a little confused on a few things if someone could help me...

I have two fancy goldfish, and I was wondering how you would feed them? I know dnalex said something about feeding them 1% of their body weight... But how do you weigh a fish??

Would I have to feed them separately? I ask because my moor usually takes a little longer to find the food than my fantail...

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